Robe of Stars

[RichGreen]

Hi,

Are the shuriken +5 from a Robe of Stars once only items or do they reappear?

Here's the SRD description:

Robe of Stars

This garment is typically black or dark blue and embroidered with small white or silver stars. The robe has three magical powers.

It enables its wearer to travel physically to the Astral Plane, along with all that she is wearing or carrying.

It gives its wearer a +1 luck bonus on all saving throws.

Its wearer can use up to six of the embroidered stars on the chest portion of the robe as +5 shuriken. The robe grants its wearer proficiency with such weapons. Each shuriken disappears after it is used.

Strong varied; CL 15th; Craft Wondrous Item, magic missile, astral projection or plane shift; Price 58,000 gp; Weight 1 lb.


Cheers


Richard

 

[shilsen]

I'd say they are single-use items. The description of the robe says nothing about them being replenished.

 

[rhammer2]

They are usable once a day. In earlier editions of AD&D, they have always regenerated. In the end it is your DM's call.

Hi,

Are the shuriken +5 from a Robe of Stars once only items or do they reappear?

Here's the SRD description:

Robe of Stars

This garment is typically black or dark blue and embroidered with small white or silver stars. The robe has three magical powers.

It enables its wearer to travel physically to the Astral Plane, along with all that she is wearing or carrying.

It gives its wearer a +1 luck bonus on all saving throws.

Its wearer can use up to six of the embroidered stars on the chest portion of the robe as +5 shuriken. The robe grants its wearer proficiency with such weapons. Each shuriken disappears after it is used.

Strong varied; CL 15th; Craft Wondrous Item, magic missile, astral projection or plane shift; Price 58,000 gp; Weight 1 lb.


Cheers


Richard

 

[dcollins]

Each shuriken disappears after it is used.

I agree with Shilsen. There's nothing in the description about them coming back.

It's true that in AD&D 1st Ed. one star was replenished per day (but if you depleted them all, then that stopped). But that ability has been deleted.

 

[RichGreen]

I agree with Shilsen. There's nothing in the description about them coming back.

It's true that in AD&D 1st Ed. one star was replenished per day (but if you depleted them all, then that stopped). But that ability has been deleted.

I've just checked the 2e DMG -- almost identical to the 1e description. I wonder if this was a deliberate deletion or just something that got missed as I like the bit about them coming back at the rate of one per day.

Cheers


Richard

 

[Infiniti2000]

There are some significant differences between 2e and 3.x:

1. In 2e they are darts. In 3.x they are shuriken.

2. In 2e, if you don't have proficiency in darts, you suffer the normal consequences. In 3.x, the robe grants proficiency in the use of the weapon (shuriken), but not just the shuriken on the Robe, all shuriken.

3. In 2e, if you use up all the stars in one day, the astral travel powers and missile powers are gone for good (but not the +1 bonus on saves). In 3.x, all other powers except for the stars remain, including the proficiency in shuriken.

Another note, the difference between 1e and 2e is that in 1e, if you use up all the stars then the +1 bonus on saves is also gone for good -- in actuality, all the powers of the robe are lost forever. For those looking this up, the Robe in 1e is in Unearthed Arcana, not in the DMG.

 

[Sledge]

if they regenerated you would need to up the price of the robe. Just having one +5 weapon is already worth 50,000 gp. I don't think the entirety of the remaining abilities are only worth 8,000. Also it would require craft magic arms & armour if they were permanent.

 

[Lord Pendragon]

Looking at the description, I'd say:

Regarding the RAW, the shurikens are one-use items that do not return or regenerate in any way. You can use five, and that's it. All other powers remain, regardless of whether or not you've used the shurikens (including shuriken proficiency).

Regarding the designer's intent, I'm uncertain. The fact that they regenerated in the past and there's no mention of it now suggests that it's an intentional omission. But there are other instances where what seemed an intentional omission was nothing of the kind, so who's to say?

 

[Staffan]

if they regenerated you would need to up the price of the robe. Just having one +5 weapon is already worth 50,000 gp.

Note that shuriken are priced as ammo, so six non-regenerating shuriken +5 are only 6,000 gp.

 

[Darkness]

Note that shuriken are priced as ammo,

I've always thought magical shuriken should be priced as ammo (or else they shouldn't break like ammo - either would be fine by me), but table 7-12 in the DMG didn't seem to agree. It's not in the DMG errata, either. Did they finally clarify that somewhere (e.g., SRD, FAQ, Dragon...)?