Rogue's At-Will Sly Flourish, is it too good ?

[Nifft]

Melee attacks.

Dance of Death has no effect on Area attacks.

So a cave bear's "Frenzy" attack would bypass the effect? That seems like a bit of a ripoff.

Hrm, -- N

 

[Hypersmurf]

So a cave bear's "Frenzy" attack would bypass the effect? That seems like a bit of a ripoff.

There are four types of attack - ranged, melee, close, and area.

Dance of Death allows you to alter an opponent's melee attacks. It doesn't allow you to alter an opponent's ranged, close, or area attacks.

A fighter can't use Power Attack with Sweeping Blow. Sweeping Blow is a close attack, and Power Attack applies to melee attacks. (Also, a fighter could use Sweeping Blow with a longbow if he wanted, though he wouldn't gain the special Str bonus.)

A ranger who rolls a critical with Spray of Arrows does not grant the Precise Hunter bonus to his allies; Spray of Arrows is a close attack, and Precise Hunter triggers off a critical with a ranged attack.

-Hyp.

 

[Nail]

+5 dex, +3 proficiency (dagger atm), +1 dagger (for being a rogue), +1 magical, +1 level = +11 to hit at lvl 2. He picked up a feat as well, so when he has combat advantage (most of the time) that increases to +14.... before any buffs/debuffs.

The feat Nimble Blade? that'd be a +1 bonus, not +2.

And that +2 Dex-race rogue put an 18 into his Dex...which means he's deficient in things that don't involving hitting stuff. A beginning 18 (+ racial) hurts just about everyone except Wizards.....

 

[keterys]

The feat Nimble Blade? that'd be a +1 bonus, not +2.

He said +11 to +14 with combat advantage - so +2 from CA, +1 from NB.

And that +2 Dex-race rogue put an 18 into his Dex...which means he's deficient in things that don't involving hitting stuff. A beginning 18 (+ racial) hurts just about everyone except Wizards.....

Honestly, I think rogues can get away with it just as well. In fact, I think I'd rather do it with a number of rogue builds more than any wizard builds I'd play.

 

[Arbitrary]

Bow Rangers and Infernal Warlocks don't get punished too badly for starting with a 20 either.

 

[keterys]

True enough.

 

[brendan candries]

And that +2 Dex-race rogue put an 18 into his Dex...which means he's deficient in things that don't involving hitting stuff. A beginning 18 (+ racial) hurts just about everyone except Wizards.....

Not sure what you expect from the rogue besides hitting stuff.

Dex influences to hit/damage/ac/reflex/initiative/rogue skills ... all important to the rogue.

He's better off than even the wizard taking that 18 imho.