Sales of upcoming Greyhawk Ruins will determine it's future

[Imaro]

I'm a fan of Greyhawk myself. The Adventure Paths have awakened my interest in it. It may seem like a setting book is a good idea, but how much info do you want? The PHB covers the deities and has the name specific spells for it, plus Paizo put out the four panel map. That is enough right there. I'll definetely be picking up the hardcover.

Let me just say that I'll be picking this up, though I'll be converting it to C&C for actual play. I think that if you have a copy of the LGG then you realize just how much information wasn't in the core books, there are a ton of deities not touched on by the PHB, as well as history, cultures, etc. I think WotC really hasn't been fair in judging the profitability of Greyhawk. While LGG was ok, it looks like an amateurish publication compared to other setting books they have put out...FR, Ghostwalk, Eberron have full color hardbacks with nice artwork(it's almost like they didn't want it too catch people's eye and sell well.). I'd really like them to actually give it a fair shake for once and treat it like the rest of their setting books, or license it out for Paizo to do some setting stuff(compilation of LG journal hint, hint) or a hardback.

 

[Alaric_Prympax]

This is at the top of my "Must Buy List". GH is my first and favorite campaign world, it's the one that I and my group know best.

LGG is long out of print, after all.

Which I always thought was a little strange for their 'Default Setting'.

 

[Vocenoctum]

Which I always thought was a little strange for their 'Default Setting'.

Greyhawk was never really the "default", so much as some bastardized version of "Greyhawk lite". Notably, in the iconic D&D novels, they didn't use Greyhawk places, but instead made up stuff. None of the human cultures are core, though they reference some in PrC's at times, it's more in a "setting specific" way than a "default setting" way. (Like presenting Thay PrC's in core stuff.)

I liked the Living Greyhawk Gaz, and I think a Players Guide to Greyhawk could be good, but not sure how it'd do. I think a dedicated GH book a year would sell, but then you run into the other problem with Greyhawk, the opinionated fans, IMO. Getting them all to agree on a version of GH, and what that one product would be... I'm sure scores of the fans will hate Expedition to CGH even and hate WotC for doing it their way. (Like Planescape)

I think Eberron is their setting, and they're in charge of it. It seems like FR fans aren't as vocal about any dislike of "direction", though they want more stuff. Greyhawk just seems like too much of a fan setting, and publishing for it is probably more trouble than the other stuff.

 

[jasin]

I want valley elves.

What are these in Greyhawk? When I heard the term, it meant an elf played like a valley girl.

 

[Man in the Funny Hat]

Thoughts? Is GH dead already? With 4E won't it just be retired?

With 4E not even in the works does it have any bearing whatever on the subject?

For me, Greyhawk has been dead for decades and the only thing that will resurrect it is to see it updated to 3.5 and re-released in a nice, fat hardcover or box set.

Oh, and of course it then needs to be followed up with proper support releases.

 

[dcas]

What are these in Greyhawk? When I heard the term, it meant an elf played like a valley girl.

They are elves who live in the Valley of the Mage. They are very similar to gray elves.

 

[Sketchpad]

Count me in as someone who'd like to see GH return I'd love to see it as a box set, but only if they could keep it under $35 ... I think I'm ready for B&W books again

 

[Greg K]

I want a pony.

Does it have to be trained to bite off the penis of Scott Tenorman?

 

[Duncan Haldane]

I think republishing the LGG in hardcover, with the timeline advanced to account for the canon changes by Living Greyhawk, would be sufficient for a lot of folks. LGG is long out of print, after all.

LGG needs, more than anything, an INDEX.

It needed it when it was the Greyhawk boxed set. It needed it as LGG in 3e. and it still needs it.

At the moment it can take a lot of effort to figure out what area a town is in, when it just lists the name of the town.

More than a few times in Living Greyhawk I've had to task someone at the table I'm DMing to flick through the LGG region by region to find out where a city is.

Duncan

 

[Zendragon]

So? Just because I don't like iPod doesn't mean I should call for their extermination. Yes, only in my dream.


So, basically you want WotC to follow TSR by making too many settings for too little audiences (yeah, I don't see a mass population of Zendragons besides you). :\

But what your saying is that you want the original walkman not an ipod, you want vcr's instead of dvd's you want 70's Hi Karate instead of Drakkar. It's been done already. 30 years is was a good run. Let it go man.

I just don't want to see Greyhawk as the default setting. A one off is fine and will satisfy some fanboys. I just don't want it for everything new.
Just like it is time to let the Realms go. It was good and served a purpose. Some people will never leave it and I understand that. I am a huge Dragonlance fan so I see the desire that is out there.