Sarah Silverman leads class-action lawsuit against ChatGPT creator

The singularity kicked off in the nineties. At least with the arrival of the cell phone. Try to explain what we are at to a Victorian. "Well it is like the letters page in the Times but in real time"
There were a lot of technological advances during the Victorian era and a lot of people kept apace and were generally interested in those advances. “You can read the paper on this little device in your pocket” likely wouldn’t be that shocking. That the environment is catastrophically changing due to burning fossil fuels would likely be a far greater shock. That we’re basically doing nothing to prevent it would likely be an even bigger shock.
 

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There were a lot of technological advances during the Victorian era and a lot of people kept apace and were generally interested in those advances. “You can read the paper on this little device in your pocket” likely wouldn’t be that shocking. That the environment is catastrophically changing due to burning fossil fuels would likely be a far greater shock. That we’re basically doing nothing to prevent it would likely be an even bigger shock.
It is not the rate of technological advance that would be the issue, nor even the environmental consequences of industrial activity. They were starting to grapple with the latter in the Victorian era. No, it is the social consequences of the technology. The idea that there would be substantial populations that do not agree with their neighbours on the basic facts of what is going on.
The idea that a person on a yacht in the middle of the Atlantic could order goods and have them delivered to New York and be waiting for their arrival.
The idea that the US President could personally oversee an assassination in realtime at the other side of the world and the fallout of that. They would get a lot of the first order effects but the secondary and tertiary effect that we are aware because we are living through it but often do not notice without a lot of deep thought.
Most of what I mention above are primary effects but think of all the stuff that need to be in place to enable that thing to happen. I am sure there is more stuff that I will not think of at this moment but will occur to me in the shower next week.
I guess what I am really getting at if the examples I gave above were given to you in the seventies you would be able to work out all the tech minimally needed to bring this about but would not imagine the economic and social changes that would occur as a result of these enablers.
 

I'm not sure where this discussion is going: Are we talking about the environment (should be its own thread but can't happen due to politics)? Job loss due to advances in tech? (always happens) the legal questions surrounding how people are training AI to do something? Corporations being evil souless things out to make money?

Or is this just some "I'm pissed off about this issue and several others, but I have no other way to voice my anger" thing?
 

I'm not sure where this discussion is going: Are we talking about the environment (should be its own thread but can't happen due to politics)? Job loss due to advances in tech? (always happens) the legal questions surrounding how people are training AI to do something? Corporations being evil souless things out to make money?

Or is this just some "I'm pissed off about this issue and several others, but I have no other way to voice my anger" thing?
Can I choose all of the above?
 

I'm not sure where this discussion is going: Are we talking about the environment (should be its own thread but can't happen due to politics)? Job loss due to advances in tech? (always happens) the legal questions surrounding how people are training AI to do something? Corporations being evil souless things out to make money?

Or is this just some "I'm pissed off about this issue and several others, but I have no other way to voice my anger" thing?
It's like page 10 and petty bickering is at a minimum. I think wherever it's going, we win!
 


Entirely depends on the individual you're talking about. Some writers and artists, sure. Others have been writing and making art depicting the evils of automation for decades. Generations of writers and artists have made art depicting the evils of automation.
But it's hardly only artists and writers that are going to be affected here. Heck, you look at virtually any big company's website (and it doesn't have to be a very big company) and their first line of a Help Desk is now an AI chatbot. All the service industries are going to get hit just like manufacturing was in the 80's. Someone mentioned that some companies still use injection molds from the 40's. Sure. I'm sure that's true. But, that doesn't change the fact that manufacturing jobs went down by about 35% overall. Note, these are all really complex issues and it certainly isn't solely automation that has caused the loss of so many jobs.

Imagine what happens to the economy though if we cut 35% of service jobs.
 


But it's hardly only artists and writers that are going to be affected here. Heck, you look at virtually any big company's website (and it doesn't have to be a very big company) and their first line of a Help Desk is now an AI chatbot. All the service industries are going to get hit just like manufacturing was in the 80's. Someone mentioned that some companies still use injection molds from the 40's. Sure. I'm sure that's true. But, that doesn't change the fact that manufacturing jobs went down by about 35% overall. Note, these are all really complex issues and it certainly isn't solely automation that has caused the loss of so many jobs.

Imagine what happens to the economy though if we cut 35% of service jobs.
"Just pick up a shovel!" - someone here, probably.
 

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