[Savage Species]Half-ogre overpowered??

[Victim]

Well, doesn't that work out the same way. The reach weapon reach (bleh) increases by 5 feet for a large creature, and the natural reach increases by 5 also. 20 ft reach.

Normal reach = +5 feet. Scaled up a size, a long spear or spiked chain would be +10 feat. Then the natural reach of 10 ft adds to it for 20 feet.

 

[Pax]

No, it's not the same.

The weapon's reach PRESUPPOSES the wielder is large enough to use it. Since a Huge Longspear -cannot- be wielded by anyone smaller than Large, it's 15' reach is FOR size large.

If it worked your way, spiked chains coudl hit people 15' away -- 5' innate reach, and 10' weapon reach.

 

[Hypersmurf]

But not everyone who can use a Huge weapon has natural reach...

A centaur, for example, is size Large, but has only 5' reach.

How far can he reach with a Huge longspear?

A centaur with a greatsword has a 5' reach; an ogre with a greatsword has a 10' reach. If they both have Huge longspears, they both reach 15'?

-Hyp.

 

[Pax]

I never said it made sense, I only said what the rule is.

Personally, while Centaurs are size large, they should wield weapons as if theyw ere size M (the size of their humanoid torso).

I also think "Reach" would be better expressed as a modifier, not a hard number -- be it creature OR weapon.

 

[smetzger]

Check page 42 of Savage Species:

For each size increase of a reach weapon, increase it's reah by 5 feet.

So, 'reach' is now named property, IOW it doesn't stack. You use the greater of your natural reach or the reach from your weapon.

 

[Shard O'Glase]

So, 'reach' is now named property, IOW it doesn't stack. You use the greater of your natural reach or the reach from your weapon.

And somehow manages to defie all common sense.