Scarred Lands

[Ruined]

Come to think of it, I never mentioned how good the SL DM Screen was. I've got three d20 'shields' so far (standard D&D, Ravenloft, and SL), and the Scarred Lands Screen is by far the most useful one I've ever seen. And not because it's got any truly specific SL info on it. The way I am, I would use this regardless of what d20 fantasy game I ran.

You'd almost think that the guys who developed it actually run a lot of games... *gasp*

 

[Graf]

Come to think of it, I never mentioned how good the SL DM Screen was.

Yeah the screens pretty good. I don't do the screen thing but I keep it around to find what I'm looking for. The attached book is.... well the race part is good. The adventure is unfortunate. The should have just stuck serpent Amphora in that space instead.

Well I guess since they are OGL, what the heck?

Btw if you people are lost, I'll clarify Graf post slightly.

While its always a good thing to have someone around to do this (clairty has never been my forte) I think that the proper names of some of the races are part of S&S's IP. Kinda like the MM... the monster description and world stuff (including the names) is not availible for use without permission, but the game stats are open.
Kind of like WotC took the last two pages of the MMII and put CC monsters in them but changed the monster's names and wrote their own description.

While Dwarf is perfectly safe (and so is mountian dwarf I think) I'm pretty certain that terms like Forsaken elf and Charduni aren't availible for use without permission.

In other words: I wasn't being obnoxious I was playing it safe.

(edit: playing it safe wasn't the right way to put that. I guess I though the OGL rules were common knowledge and that there wouldn't be much confusion as to why I wasn't posting names. In retrospect should probably have emailed somebody @ S&S first...)

 

[Nightfall]

Right Graf, I gotcha. And I'd NEVER call you obxious. Pain in the butt but never obxious!

SPEAKING of Forsaken elf! I just now recieved AND read Forsworn. Let me say this. THEY DO GIVE That Which Abides a NAME! More can be found in Scarntalk, since I don't want to spoil it any more.

 

[Nightfall]

Fantastic, thanks Nightfall and Graf, this is just what I was looking for. I'm off to search for the DM screen tomorrow. I was wondering if Scarred Lands has its own take on any of the core classes (in the same way Iron Kingdoms does, for example).

Uhm well the Pr-classes, they DO have their own unique take, in R&R2. But there WILL be Guidebooks to help give SL flavor to the core classes, along with Pr-classes and maybe a few new feats.

 

[Fevil]

And Illithids might be fighting with Slacerians!

Do you mean alongside, or against Night?
I personally will have them as a servitor race biding their time until they see a sign of their former masters return.

 

[JoeGKushner]

Setting up my new Scarred Lands campaign, (My DM is taking a brether), I've noticed one thing that bugs me.

Player based cities are rare.

Not rare in the setting, but detailed in a sourcebook like Mithril.

Hollowfaust isn't my cup of tea and I don't think it suits my campaign style well.

Mithril is great but hey, I've already run Mithril.

I'd added Freeport outside the Toes and Bluffside on the far western end of the land mass, but I'd like a native city.

When's the sourcebok on Vesh coming out? I could use another player friendly territory. I keep having people want to become vigils anyway so it'll be interesting to see how that goes.

As far as Mind FLayers and the other things (whose name I can never spell), I'm having the mind flayers use the orcs from the Plains of Lede as a brute force to clear away the humans so that they can investigate the older areas and look for remains. Of course most of the orcs don't know their being used as it's done through their leaders, a few black orcs from AEG's Monstrers and lots of prestige classes from Heroes of High Favor: Half-Orcs. I had a temple from the module Brotherhood of Prophecy and since several of the students there were half-orcs left by their parents, they've now become Lost Ones (Monk-Barbarians) and are truly a fearsome force. I've even added my old Fiery Dragon stuff to the setting since the old FD Karathis setting never really got enough detail for my taste. The tribe of Himrak orcs have become the de facto leader of the orcs fro mteh Plains of Lede.

One of the things I've been having a hard time with though are the prestige classes. Not in the SL books mind you. I want to add some monstrous humanoids with PrCs but the requirements are often so high that the monsters would be 6th-8th level by the time they get into it whihc puts them way above most of the characters.

Ah well. Maybe if I'm not too lazy I'll do a story hour thing about it. How does that go Nightfall? You just fictionalize what happened in the game and pop it into that forum?

 

[laiyna]

Scarred Lands is to be fair Junk, really big Junk.

At first glance it looks like an oke setting, loads of info and books, and in the begining it was most likly the best around. But now they have braught out a lot of books, and a pattern became clear.

1) Shiploads of eratta (almost a compleet book, for the 12 they braught out so far)

2) No details, yes they tell a nice story, and it all looks cool at a glance, but no real hard data, they first made a nice land description, then they worked out the cities (without real data). Oke you would think, now they go work the setting out in detail, right? WRONG, they just announced that they increase they're world with a factor 2, including some new gods/titans and stuff.

This means effectifly you still need to work out everything yourself, the only thing they did is given you a badly worked out background. So the fluff is wrong and all crunch got shiploads of eratta.

atm I got everything for sale, its not worth the cash to spend it on.

Laiyna

 

[chatdemon]

I haven't fully jumped into switching to SL for my campaign, but I will say a couple of things on its behalf.

The Creature Collections rock. Sure, there have been complaints here and there about the monsters within being unbalanced, but I didn't think there was anything that critical. Also, and more importantly, the description of each beast tied it directly to the setting, which is wonderful.

Similar can be said for the spell and ritual descriptions in the Relics & Rituals books. Instead of just a name like Mordenkainen or Tenser stuck onto a spell to make the name sound kewl, we get an actual tid bit of information on the spell's history and it's creator.

Good stuff.

Oh, and Slitheren kick ass!

 

[Nightfall]

Do you mean alongside, or against Night?
I personally will have them as a servitor race biding their time until they see a sign of their former masters return.

Uhm I didn't think I said that. I tend to follow what you have to say, Fevil. That the Slacerians are the SUPERIOR race and the Illithids/mind-flayers are servitor race for the Slacerians. I kind of felt they were the "book keepers" and "overseers" of the slaves, while the Slacerians did the other stuff.

 

[Nightfall]

Setting up my new Scarred Lands campaign, (My DM is taking a brether), I've noticed one thing that bugs me.

Player based cities are rare.

Not rare in the setting, but detailed in a sourcebook like Mithril.

Ah I see. Well Shelzar IS being written, but so far that's about the best I can offer you. If you have the SLCS, there are SOME maps of some of the cities. Also there's Burok Torn, but I'm not sure if I'd do it. But that's more of preference issue than anything Joe.

When's the sourcebok on Vesh coming out? I could use another player friendly territory. I keep having people want to become vigils anyway so it'll be interesting to see how that goes.

Well if you want to run in Vesh, that's not too hard to do. Lave, while not mapped (I really didn't like that either) but as the main capital is the best I can come up with. But as far as I know, there's no resource for Vesh coming out. Only sourcebooks that I know of slated for the end of this year are Hornsaw, and Shelzar. (Though the latter might be a 2003 release.)

As far as Mind FLayers and the other things (whose name I can never spell), I'm having the mind flayers use the orcs from the Plains of Lede as a brute force to clear away the humans so that they can investigate the older areas and look for remains. Of course most of the orcs don't know their being used as it's done through their leaders, a few black orcs from AEG's Monstrers and lots of prestige classes from Heroes of High Favor: Half-Orcs. I had a temple from the module Brotherhood of Prophecy and since several of the students there were half-orcs left by their parents, they've now become Lost Ones (Monk-Barbarians) and are truly a fearsome force. I've even added my old Fiery Dragon stuff to the setting since the old FD Karathis setting never really got enough detail for my taste. The tribe of Himrak orcs have become the de facto leader of the orcs fro mteh Plains of Lede.

Sounds good to me. Btw it SLARECIANS, Joe. But don't worry. If you say "Those Psionic guys that the Penumbral Lords worked with" I know who you're talking about.

One of the things I've been having a hard time with though are the prestige classes. Not in the SL books mind you. I want to add some monstrous humanoids with PrCs but the requirements are often so high that the monsters would be 6th-8th level by the time they get into it whihc puts them way above most of the characters.

Which ones are you talking about? If you're worried about the DMG ones, R&R2 does go into detail about them.

Ah well. Maybe if I'm not too lazy I'll do a story hour thing about it. How does that go Nightfall? You just fictionalize what happened in the game and pop it into that forum?

Well it goes like this. I take the events that happen, say like fight, take some of the details and go from there. Mostly it depends on the actions as well any thing the character's say. I tend to adlib and/or paraphrase if the PCs say something.