Scrying on Friends

[MacMathan]

This question came up in our last session:

Since the success of the 3.5 Scry spell is based off of the targets Wil save can a friendly target voluntarily fail the save and thus allow the party to always successfully Scry her?

This begs to question does a player have to know something is being cast on her to voluntarily fail her saves? Does she have to know who is casting it? Does it effect just that one spell or any other spells cast in that round etc.?

 

[Hypersmurf]

Since the success of the 3.5 Scry spell is based off of the targets Wil save can a friendly target voluntarily fail the save and thus allow the party to always successfully Scry her?

A friendly target can voluntarily fail the save. As for "always"...

This begs to question does a player have to know something is being cast on her to voluntarily fail her saves?

Pretty much. You always know that something was cast at you if you succeed at a save. But you don't know before the save is made. So unless they use Sending first to say "I'm about to Scry - don't resist, okay?", you'd have no reason to decide to "stop resisting"...

-Hyp.

 

[shilsen]

What Hypersmurf said. This happened in my campaign a couple sessions ago, when an ally of the PCs wanted to scry them. The first thing he did was use a sending to let them know that's what he would be doing an hour later. They have a couple of enemies with the ability to scry, so without that warning they would have got a Will save to resist.

If you can't afford a sending, try to scry the friend with the lousy Will save. Good reason to always have a barbarian in the party

 

[Hypersmurf]

If you can't afford a sending, try to scry the friend with the lousy Will save. Good reason to always have a barbarian in the party

Third Rock from the Sun flash... so that explains why it was always Harry the Big Giant Head Dominated...

-Hyp.

 

[shilsen]

Third Rock from the Sun flash... so that explains why it was always Harry the Big Giant Head Dominated...

-Hyp.

(beginning to feel like I'm stalking Hyp now, having posted in 3 threads right after him)

 

[Hypersmurf]

(beginning to feel like I'm stalking Hyp now...)

Yeah, they warned me that sort of thing can happen.

-Hyp.

 

[shilsen]

Yeah, they warned me that sort of thing can happen.

-Hyp.

Well, who just had to become the big cool moderator, Mr. Blue Smartypants? Pffffft! (wraps trenchcoat around self and stalks off into the bushes)