ToV Sell Me on Tales of the Valiant

[fettpett]

For those of us in need of good monster building rules, which is the book to get??

The GMG and MV both have information on building and modifying monster, the GMG has a LOT more information with a full chapter dedicated to it.

 

[fettpett]

If I understand rituals non casters can do them as well if they choose to spend thier resources on them

You have to be a caster to cast rituals. What you DON'T have to be a caster for is using spell scrolls which anyone can use of any spell source.

 

[fettpett]

The ToV GMG system actually meshes very well with the FoF!

Mike Shae worked on both

 

[Mekri]

Fundamentally there is very little difference between 5e 2014 and TOV.
If you have one of them already, there isn’t much reason to get or switch to the others. The handful of differences, like doom points, etc can just be imported as desired without needing to switch.
If you have neither version, and are trying to decide which to get—
For the most complete currently line up, 2014.
If you hate WOTC, go TOV.
If you want the latest (and highest power level in terms of PCs), go 2024.
I have all three, and ended up sticking with 2014 myself.
(2024 is just too much now- 2014 was high enough power for my tastes)
(TOV is just going to keep adding new books, since they are a business and need to make money, but I see no reason in rebuying things I basically already have. It’s literally 95% the same thing, and I’m not a fan of there overall aesthetic.)

 

[SlyFlourish]

Fundamentally there is very little difference between 5e 2014 and TOV.
If you have one of them already, there isn’t much reason to get or switch to the others. The handful of differences, like doom points, etc can just be imported as desired without needing to switch.
If you have neither version, and are trying to decide which to get—
For the most complete currently line up, 2014.
If you hate WOTC, go TOV.
If you want the latest (and highest power level in terms of PCs), go 2024.
I have all three, and ended up sticking with 2014 myself.
(2024 is just too much now- 2014 was high enough power for my tastes)
(TOV is just going to keep adding new books, since they are a business and need to make money, but I see no reason in rebuying things I basically already have. It’s literally 95% the same thing, and I’m not a fan of there overall aesthetic.)

The separation of heritage and lineage is in TOV too and isn't in either of the D&D 5e versions.

 

[Keith Langley]

The players guide had to revisit everything already done in 2014, in order to fulfill the mission of making KP’s back catalogue fully compatible. The upcoming PG2 will be their first chance to really set new directions for classes and subclasses. I’m looking forward to it.