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Tales and Chronicles

Jewel of the North, formerly know as vincegetorix
PFFFFT. Grow a pair of ovaries and play the game like a real woman! :)
Hey, I love me some gruesome deaths for my (rare) characters.

My players? Not so much.

They are the kind who arrive at the first game with a full sketch pad of drawing of their character, a custom mini and a full sound track for every moment of the PC's life.

They take the death of a character quite hard :p
 



Bill Zebub

“It’s probably Matt Mercer’s fault.”
Hey, I love me some gruesome deaths for my (rare) characters.

My players? Not so much.

They are the kind who arrive at the first game with a full sketch pad of drawing of their character, a custom mini and a full sound track for every moment of the PC's life.

They take the death of a character quite hard :p

Curious why you want to use a system that so explicitly embraces characters with bad stats dying.
 


JohnF

Adventurer
Hey, I love me some gruesome deaths for my (rare) characters.

My players? Not so much.

They are the kind who arrive at the first game with a full sketch pad of drawing of their character, a custom mini and a full sound track for every moment of the PC's life.

They take the death of a character quite hard :p
I'd love to play 5e with those players! They sound awesome! But Shadowdark is not for them, even with 4d6 char gen.

Shadowdark's vibe is its own thing, from char gen to advancement. I just tried to use a wine analogy on a friend to help him understand the differences between fantasy RPGs that aren't exactly the same play experience though they seem really similar. Here it is: merlot, champagne, and port may all be wines, but they drink differently. (I forgot he was a beer guy. My analogy was wasted.)
 

Tales and Chronicles

Jewel of the North, formerly know as vincegetorix
Curious why you want to use a system that so explicitly embraces characters with bad stats dying.
'cause as I said, I personally love it. I'm the DM, and I'm the one buying the books. I'm personally tired of the characters with 1000 buttons with different recharges on a 4 pages character sheet.

But yeah, my players do love the safety of 5e (they still die a lot in 5e). They love the idea, the fantasy, behind a moon druid, a rune knight, an astral monk and a clockwork sorcerer, but honestly, they dont understand how they work. All those rules and options are way too much for them; they barely remember which die to roll in-between games :p

So that's why I'm looking for a OSR-ish game that offers many cool character fantasies, without overloading the character sheet. Or a game that's easy enough to modify to create those concepts without spending hours on it. Hence, Shadowdark.
 


If someone want to avoid frighten usual 5ed players you can use point buy.
The average for 3d6 six time is 15 points.
Ex.: 15,12,10,8,8,8 for an awesome +0 bonus.

Choosing his background won’t break the game neither, nor giving average hit points instead of rolling.
 

Mannahnin

Scion of Murgen (He/Him)
Shadowdark's vibe is its own thing, from char gen to advancement. I just tried to use a wine analogy on a friend to help him understand the differences between fantasy RPGs that aren't exactly the same play experience though they seem really similar. Here it is: merlot, champagne, and port may all be wines, but they drink differently. (I forgot he was a beer guy. My analogy was wasted.)
IPAs, lagers, and sour ales.

If someone want to avoid frighten usual 5ed players you can use point buy.
The average for 3d6 six time is 15 points.
Ex.: 15,12,10,8,8,8 for an awesome +0 bonus.

Choosing his background won’t break the game neither, nor giving average hit points instead of rolling.
Maybe I'm insufficiently caffeinated, but I can't follow your math here. Average for 3d6 six times is 63 total points in stats, right? 10.5 x 6? Your sample array is 61 points, so very close, but I'm still not following "six time is 15 points".
 

Bill Zebub

“It’s probably Matt Mercer’s fault.”
The spell miscast penalties would guaranty that no one ever play a caster, that's for sure :ROFLMAO:

But, hey, you know. They are the best group in the world. We just have different... sensibilities.

I ran a one-shot for my 5e group. One guy started his own stopwatch every time they lit a torch. Since it was a one-shot I didn’t bother trying to explain why that wasn’t in the spirit of the game.
 


IPAs, lagers, and sour ales.


Maybe I'm insufficiently caffeinated, but I can't follow your math here. Average for 3d6 six times is 63 total points in stats, right? 10.5 x 6? Your sample array is 61 points, so very close, but I'm still not following "six time is 15 points".
Average of 6 x 3d6 is 11,11,11,10,10,10.
in term of dnd 5ed point buy value it is 15 points.
I use value for 5ed, there may be a more accurate table and values.

15 points can give the following scores who are around average SD method and would make decent SD character,
  1. 15,12,10,8,8,8 bonus 0
  2. 14,13,11,8,8,8 bonus 0
  3. 14,11,11,10,8,8 bonus 0
  4. 14,12,11,9,8,8 bonus 0
  5. 14,12,12,8,8,8 bonus +1
  6. 14,12,10,10,8,8 bonus +1
 

Mannahnin

Scion of Murgen (He/Him)
Average of 6 x 3d6 is 11,11,11,10,10,10.
in term of dnd 5ed point buy value it is 15 points.
I use value for 5ed, there may be a more accurate table and values.
Ah, I follow, now. The equivalent of 15 points spent on the 5E point buy ability score table. Gotcha.
 

Autumnal

Bruce Baugh, Writer of Fortune
I ran a one-shot for my 5e group. One guy started his own stopwatch every time they lit a torch. Since it was a one-shot I didn’t bother trying to explain why that wasn’t in the spirit of the game.
raises hanf I don’t understand why it isn’t, either, I guess. What have I missed so far?
 

SPECTRE666

Adventurer
People are making all kinds of LED timed lamps on the Shadowdark Facebook group.:ROFLMAO:

Last night I rolled up a character for Shadowdark.
I rolled three 12's, and three 13's. (Str 12, Dex 12, Con 13, Int 13 (15 from talent), Wis12, and Cha 13).
The next set the lowest was a 4, and the highest stat was 11 oof!

So I created a human Wizard.
4 HP (3+1) AC 11, Talents were adv to one spell, and +2 to INT. The Spells I rolled up (1d12 three times) were Charm, Burning Hands, and Mage Armor. At first I was going to put the adv on charm, then thought how I would probably use burning hands as his offensive spell more often. So burning hand has adv. I rolled a 19 for his background which is a Noble. That was fun!
 

Bill Zebub

“It’s probably Matt Mercer’s fault.”
People are making all kinds of LED timed lamps on the Shadowdark Facebook group.:ROFLMAO:

Last night I rolled up a character for Shadowdark.
I rolled three 12's, and three 13's. (Str 12, Dex 12, Con 13, Int 13 (15 from talent), Wis12, and Cha 13).
The next set the lowest was a 4, and the highest stat was 11 oof!

So I created a human Wizard.
4 HP (3+1) AC 11, Talents were adv to one spell, and +2 to INT. The Spells I rolled up (1d12 three times) were Charm, Burning Hands, and Mage Armor. At first I was going to put the adv on charm, then thought how I would probably use burning hands as his offensive spell more often. So burning hand has adv. I rolled a 19 for his background which is a Noble. That was fun!

Advantage on Burning Hands is pretty freaking awesome.
 

kapars

Explorer
Had a blast running Scarlet Citadel. Listening to players fret as they try to outrun a cave creeper, having a player possessed and taking out the torch as they are fighting past a skeleton to escape the dungeon, a PC getting first aid from an Ettercap - good times.

I don’t think I’ve ever laughed this much DMing 5e or even OSE. 5e has too much to keep track of and with OSE I find myself doing a lot of lookups and bookkeeping; with this I can relax.
 


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