Shield spell is finally fixed

[Artoomis]

Actually, IIRC, they can only issue errata after having had a Rules Council meeting, with this being the holiday season, it could be a few months before that happened.

Holiday season? Not here. Vacations may happen more in the summer than at other times of the year in the states, but the summer is not considered the "holiday season" around here - that would be Christmas time.

 

[kreynolds]

k? You seein this?

Uhhh........I'm not sure....

I'm sorry, it struck me as funny.

It strikes me confusing as all hell...

Now it is k that people are looking to for rules advice.

I think there's been a mistake.

 

[Lela]

Well... I in no way disregard the FAQ... but... until it's officially errata.... it's no AoOs for me

The problem is that this more than triples the effectiveness of a 1st level spell. If a Fighter can walk up to a Wizard, attack him and miss because of a HUGE AC bonus (I mean, look at Full Plate armor for a moment guys, see that Armor bonus there, don't loose sight of that), and then have the Wizard pop him with any spell he want's from 5 ft away. . .

That just removes two of the Wizard's biggest weakness by using a 1st level spell. And while it's only from half the battle, it's not as often as you think that this becomes an issue if the other party members defend the Wizard.

That's the biggest reason for keeping AoOs. They still get an Armor bonus for the Shield with it anyway.


Disclaimer/Apology

Sorry about the above guys. I'm too tired to be online right now and I got a little carried away.

Uhhh........I'm not sure....

It strikes me confusing as all hell...

I think there's been a mistake.

Now, this, stikes me as funny. Thanks for the laugh k!

 

[AGGEMAM]

Holiday season? Not here. Vacations may happen more in the summer than at other times of the year in the states, but the summer is not considered the "holiday season" around here - that would be Christmas time.

Ok, translation problem, or maybe it is just the fact that it is 01:20 AM here, and I have to be up at 05:00 AM, so goodnight all.

 

[JoeBlank]

Methinks AGGEMAM is using "holiday" in the "vacation" sense. In the U.S., we usually mean a day that most everyone gots off from work when we say "holiday", and "holiday season" usually implies Thanksgiving to New Years.

Just my guess.

 

[drowdude]

The problem is that this more than triples the effectiveness of a 1st level spell. If a Fighter can walk up to a Wizard, attack him and miss because of a HUGE AC bonus (I mean, look at Full Plate armor for a moment guys, see that Armor bonus there, don't loose sight of that), and then have the Wizard pop him with any spell he want's from 5 ft away. . .

That just removes two of the Wizard's biggest weakness by using a 1st level spell. And while it's only from half the battle, it's not as often as you think that this becomes an issue if the other party members defend the Wizard.

That's the biggest reason for keeping AoOs. They still get an Armor bonus for the Shield with it anyway.

Yeah, I realize all that. It's just that we have been playing with the unaltered version so long...that I... I... just.... can't.... give... up..., can't lose... can't lose the cheetin' advantage....

 

[Bonedagger]

Methinks AGGEMAM is using "holiday" in the "vacation" sense. In the U.S., we usually mean a day that most everyone gots off from work when we say "holiday", and "holiday season" usually implies Thanksgiving to New Years.

Just my guess.

No. In Denmark (Copenhagen) summer is a holiday season. 1 month... More or less.

 

[Oracular Vision]

While it should be errata, it is official, so it is wrong to say it isn't official, it says it is. Sage advice is not official errata unless it gets into the FAQ, it is advice, as it says.

In Living Greyhawk, for instance, only printed books and the FAQ are considered official, unprinted errata isn't, and sage advice isn't. It seems a good way to run a campaign as player's can only have the books that are out, and the FAQ is just a few pages, so everyone can have them to reference.

Sage advice is most useful for new players still getting a grip, it is and has been contradictory for those of us who want to have rules clarifications.

I fail to see how a new FAQ is old news, but, whatever...

 

[Voadam]

A FAQ should explain unclear rules, sum up complicated ones for those who are not sure about them, or give specific examples to make things clearer.

Errata is changes to old material to correct it. If you just read the rules and the errata you should be OK and only need to turn to the FAQ if you are unclear or want something extra to read.

In a contradiction between the primary source (the rules) and an unnecessary explanation of the source (the FAQ) you should go with the primary source.

Changes to spells should be errata or the change is not an official change.

 

[Iku Rex]

Publish the FAQ as they do, but never state that is is or is not errata - let it be just as it is and let the rulings in there be "official" even if they are errata.

Eh?

That's what they're doing now.