D&D (2024) Should 2014 Half Elves and Half Orcs be added to the 2025 SRD?

[Micah Sweet]

Yeah, but then you get the question of.

"What is the D&D IP you want to push."

It cannot just be 'everything' because thats not something identifiable. The PHB is limited for a reason, and its not just to push later books/content.

I'm not interested in any particular IP being pushed.

 

[Minigiant]

Yeah, but then you get the question of.

"What is the D&D IP you want to push."

It cannot just be 'everything' because thats not something identifiable. The PHB is limited for a reason, and its not just to push later books/content.

"The one for the audiences you are pursuing"

Its never "everyone". But it's also not gonna be "All sourced from a small handful of fandoms of a few books/media".

 

[Scribe]

I'm not interested in any particular IP being pushed.

Wizards is, and its their book/srd (to bring it back lol) which is in question here.

 

[Micah Sweet]

Wizards is, and its their book/srd (to bring it back lol) which is in question here.

Again the SRD already has the half-elves and half-orcs, and the book is out.

 

[Scribe]

Again the SRD already has the half-elves and half-orcs, and the book is out.

The old SRD, sure, but we dont need to relitigate (checks) 66 pages do we?

 

[Micah Sweet]

The old SRD, sure, but we dont need to relitigate (checks) 66 pages do we?

No, but my opinion hasn't changed. I don't see the point of adding anything to the new SRD that is in the old one. They're both the same edition, right?

 

[Scribe]

No, but my opinion hasn't changed. I don't see the point of adding anything to the new SRD that is in the old one. They're both the same edition, right?

Not really no.

 

[AnotherGuy]

It's the one you presented.

It's your perspective.

I can say 'many' people prefer a lot of things.

Cool.

Doesn't make it true or make those guys right.

No one said anything about right but it is interesting you jumped to that.
Also if you don't think it is true feel free to disagree.

Xenofiction exists. Stories with non-human protagonists exist. Tastes have broadened over the years. There's a reason tielfings are on top and Tumblr sexymen include a skeleton and a vending machine.

Yes. As I said earlier more novels and new settings will change traditional perspectives. Glad we agree.

 

[Mecheon]

I'm unsure why people keep bringing up 20th century heroes and sci-fi characters in Medieval/Renaissance fantasy.

Are we gonna have to have that discussion about how D&D wears its influence on its sleaves or should I just go right to the part where there was a Morbius creature in the Fiend Factory (Didn't make it to the Folio, but showed how the influences came in), how 1E stuff had Mars encounter tables, multiple Shai-hulud expies, Ravenloft having pod people and Alien expies, there being canon stats for totally-not the Gargantuas and totally-not Mothra, or Spelljammer having Aura Battlers, Guyvers and Gamera with the serial numbers filed off?

And let's be honest, only kaiju buffs know or care about who the Gargantuas are. (They're twin monsters born from Frakenstein's Monster after he fell into the earth's core fighting Baragon)

Anywho, to drag it back for a bit

And to be clear I said published settings and novels inform and influence our preferences.
You want those preference to change - a PHB with wonderful creatures isn't going to do much on its own. Perhaps a different setting or novel might help influencing.
Please do not mischaracterise what I said to make some point.

For decades, D&D has published books like Complete Guide to Humanoids, to make these other options playable. This stuff has been in the game longer than some people on this forum has been alive. Of course folks are going to use the widespread alternate options they're given

And folks do use another setting. That's why Greyhawk has basically been dead since 3E, with only the potential modern revival, and FR (which allows for the myriad of groups) is the popular one, plus Eberron where its creator has a whole blog series helping you find places to put weird stuff

Yes. As I said earlier more novels and new settings will change traditional perspectives. Glad we agree.

Or, y'know. Warcraft 3 being big enough that anything that tries for the 'you should only have the basic races, who wants to play as orcs/anything vaguely interesting' is going to be negatively compared to an RTS from 2002, the game that launched both World of Warcraft and DotA, games who's impact is so massive you can track it in market dips for unrelated products

 

[AnotherGuy]

Are we gonna have to have that discussion about how D&D wears its influence on its sleaves or should I just go right to the part where there was a Morbius creature in the Fiend Factory (Didn't make it to the Folio, but showed how the influences came in), how 1E stuff had Mars encounter tables, Ravenloft having pod people and Alien expies, or Spelljammer having Aura Battlers, Guyvers and Gamera with the serial numbers filed off?

Anywho, to drag it back for a bit

Not yet.
Sure and Mystara had the S.S. Bugle that crash landed etc. And yet the rest of the settings, classes etc were based off? But like I said earlier that's a different convo. Feel free to open another thread on this.

For decades, D&D has published books like Complete Guide to Humanoids, to make these other options playable. This stuff has been in the game longer than some people on this forum has been alive. Of course folks are going to use the widespread alternate options they're given

And folks do use another setting. That's why Greyhawk has basically been dead since 3E, with only the potential modern revival, and FR (which allows for the myriad of groups) is the popular one, plus Eberron where its creator has a whole blog series helping you find places to put weird stuff

Or, y'know. Warcraft 3 being big enough that anything that tries for the 'you should only have the basic races, who wants to play as orcs/anything vaguely interesting' is going to be negatively compared to an RTS from 2002, the game that launched both World of Warcraft and DotA, games who's impact is so massive you can track it in market dips for unrelated products

Cool. Nothing of your post invalidates what I've said. Orcs exist in almost every D&D setting. They're relatable and grounded.