D&D (2024) Should 2014 Half Elves and Half Orcs be added to the 2025 SRD?

[AnotherGuy]

Because the marketing department forces him down our throats despite th fact it makes no reason for him to be here. AGAIN, I have nothing positive to say about Batman nor his fandom, I look down on people who like Batman because I absolutely loathe him. I will not participate in this derail.

Understood. Do you deny that if you were in creative control of DC and Marvel the Avengers and JLA, the lead protector teams of Earth (human-centric setting), would be made up of very relatable aliens, robots and furries?
Rhetorical question, you don't have to answer it

 

[pemerton]

Understood. Do you deny that if you were in creative control of DC and Marvel the Avengers and JLA, the lead protector teams of Earth (human-centric setting), would be made up of very relatable aliens, robots and furries?

JLA: Superman, Red Tornado, not sure about furries.

Avengers: Wonder Man, Hercules, Thor, Vision, Tigra.

I'm not saying you're fully wrong, but Superman and Thor both do fairly well - in teams and solo - and both are aliens. (Though rather human-like ones!)

 

[AnotherGuy]

JLA: Superman, Red Tornado, not sure about furries.

Avengers: Wonder Man, Hercules, Thor, Vision, Tigra.

I'm not saying you're fully wrong, but Superman and Thor both do fairly well - in teams and solo - and both are aliens. (Though rather human-like ones!)

Sure, but the claim from @Not a Decepticon is 0 humans.
You forgot Martian Manhunter for JLA

 

[Not a Decepticon]

I've not expressed any view on that question. I've addressed a particular point, namely, about Hobbits and the role of Hobbits in JRRT's fantasy works.

And in doing so argue against me, whose main point was the opposite of "We need humans to be relatable".

Why would I want to speak to people whose idea of literary criticism is analysing Transformers episodes?

You're arguing about a story of little people with beards on their feet going to destroy stole piece of jelwery before it falls into hands of a giant burning eyeball. Looking down on other media is waaay sillier than anything Transformers have ever done.

Understood. Do you deny that if you were in creative control of DC and Marvel the Avengers and JLA, the lead protector teams of Earth (human-centric setting), would be made up of very relatable aliens, robots and furries?
Rhetorical question, you don't have to answer it

I will have you know, that I have drew ire of fans for criticising supposedly belowed comics like Jonathan Hickman's Infinity or Geoff johns' Sinestro Corps War for being too Earth-centric. There are so many great charactersin these comics, it's disgusting it is all ruined for few annoying people's obsession with worshipping billionaires and being afraid of clowns.

 

[Not a Decepticon]

Sure, but the claim from @Not a Decepticon is 0 humans.

How about you stop this disgusting strawman, that you started because I've said I don't like Batman?
Also, DC has Metal Men, entire team of robots, why are we having this argument?

 

[pemerton]

You forgot Martian Manhunter for JLA

You'd already mentioned him!

 

[pemerton]

You're arguing about a story of little people with beards on their feet going to destroy stole piece of jelwery before it falls into hands of a giant burning eyeball. Looking down on other media is waaay sillier than anything Transformers have ever done.

If that's your take on LotR, it also helps explain your take on Hobbits.

 

[Not a Decepticon]

If that's your take on LotR, it also helps explain your take on Hobbits.

Could you please stop being pretentious and condescending about an old book? Like, take a step back and you'lkl realize everything can be potrayed as silly, you don't get to look down on anyone.

 

[AnotherGuy]

How about you stop this disgusting strawman, that you started because I've said I don't like Batman?
Also, DC has Metal Men, entire team of robots, why are we having this argument?

In Guardians of the Galaxy I'd argue Peter Quill and Rocket are both equally relatable.
But I cannot agree with you that LotR Hobbits who match in appearance with humans and enjoy the pleasures of life are on par with the Elves who are supernatural-like and view the passage of time differently.

2e made the Complete Handbooks for different races because they are DIFFERENT, not just in classes and mechanics but because they're meant to be played differently (hopefully).

 

[Not a Decepticon]

But I cannot agree with you that LotR Hobbits who match in appearance and enjoy the pleasures of life are on par with the Elves who view the passage of time differently.

Except the argument I made was the Hobbits, while NOT being human, are the POV characters, while two humans in Fellowship are less relatable, thus proving we don't need humans to be relatable. The argument I made wasn't "Hobbits are Elves" but "you don't need humans to be relatable".