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General Should Bearded Female Dwarves be the Default?

Should Bearded Female Dwarves be the Default?

  • Yes

    Votes: 26 20.2%
  • No

    Votes: 32 24.8%
  • A possible trait, but not universal

    Votes: 58 45.0%
  • No opinion

    Votes: 13 10.1%

  • Total voters
    129

Charlaquin

Goblin Queen
But according to the lore orcs are also magically fertile. Which means they can be a separate species as well.
Exactly. The existence of Magic completely throws a wrench in any definition of species based on real-life genetics. We don’t even know for certain that there is such thing as genes in D&D, so there’s no sense trying to apply a geneticist understanding of species there. But, species are a closer analogue for the relationship (or, lack of relationship) between humans and orcs than race, based on how those words are typically used.
 

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The 5E Monster Manual actually does use a Dwarf-Orc hybrid as an example of a non-Human Half-Orc. Half-Orcs are half Orc, not Human-Orc hubrids. The Explorer's Guide to Wildemount also discusses Dwarf-Elf children, and Half-Elves of non-Human heritage I'm general.
Where does the Monster Manual discuss dwarf-orc hybrids? I've read the book like 5 times and never came across that. Correct me if I'm wrong.
 

Weiley31

Adventurer
All I know is that I read a thing online that explained the reason Dragons can breed with species like humans and such(how else ya get half-dragons?) Is that the reproductive system of dragons are similar to the humanoid/human species.
 


Is that the reproductive system of dragons are similar to the humanoid/human species.
The most common ways that dragons breed with humanoid species is by their Shape Change abilities that let them change their anatomy, so this is normally how they are created. How the genetics of something like this works is not clear and probably shouldn't have an answer, but they could just use the explanation of "magic, I guess" and call it good.
 


Parmandur

Legend
Where does the Monster Manual discuss dwarf-orc hybrids? I've read the book like 5 times and never came across that. Correct me if I'm wrong.
Certainly, Monster Manual, page 245, emphasis added:

"Orc Crossbreeds. Luthic, the orc goddess of fertility and wife of Gruumsh, demands that orcs procreate often and indiscriminately so that orc hordes swell generation after generation. The orcs' drive to reproduce runs stronger than any other humanoid race, and they readily Crossbreeds with other races. When an orc procreates with a non-orc humanoid of similar size and stature (such as a human or a dwarf), the resulting child is either an orc or a half-orc. When an orc produces young with an ogre, the child is a half-ogre of intimidating strength and brutish features called an ogrillon."

So, when making a Half-Orc, any humanoid parent is viable, with dwarves singled out as an example.
 
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Certainly, Monster Manual, page 245, emphasis added:

"Orc Crossbreeds. Luthic, the orc goddess of fertility and wife of Gruumsh, demands that orcs procreate often and indiscriminately so that orc hordes swell generation after generation. The orcs' drive to reproduce runs stronger than any other humanoid race, and they readily Crossbreeds with other races. When an orc procreates with a non-orc humanoid of similar size and stature (such as a human or a dwarf), the resulting child is either an orc or a half-orc. When an orc produces young with an ogre, the child is a half-ogre of intimidating strength and brutish features called an ogrillon."

So, when making a Half-Orc, any humanoid parent is viable, with dwarves singled out as an example.
Ah, I must've forgot about that. They probably should've put that information in the Half-Orc section of the PHB instead of the Monster Manual. How many players have the monster manual?
 


Parmandur

Legend
The official Forgotten Realms lore is that Dwarves can have children with Humans, Halflings, Gnomes, and even Elves. The children are always just Dwarves.

In Exandria, per the latest book, there is a city of Dwarves that took in Elven refugees, and Dwarf-Elf marriages became common. The children are either Dwarves or Elves...

And also in Exandria, in the Kryn Dynasty, there Half-Elves that are Elf-Goblin, Elf-Orc or Elf-Minotaur hybrids...
 
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Human and Dragons have dominant characteristics. Heh.

That makes me one to make the Human God in my "Generic God Pantheon Setting". make humanity dominant in reproduction. "Your racemigt live hundreds of years. But if one of mine hooks up with one of yours, the kids look like mine but gets yours powers. Haha."
 

S'mon

Legend
Benjamin Franklin wrote, “The Spaniards, Italians, French, Russians and Swedes, are generally of what we call a swarthy Complexion; as are the Germans also, the Saxons only excepted.” Dude didn't think Swedes were white enough. Let that sink in for a minute. We have a modern concept of whiteness that may not have been shared by all our ancestors.
How on earth do you go from 'swarthy complexion' to 'not white'?!

Edit: I don't think Franklin was discussing 'whiteness' at all.
 

I mean, women (NOT ALL) sometimes have slight mustache hair at times.

Plus I think the bearded Dwarven women idea is a kind of a concept/joke in Lord of The Rings too.

So it's not really TOO outta norm for dwarven women to grow beards in that case.
Take out the slight. I would have a full-blown mustache if I didn't shave daily.
 

Ashrym

Hero
You don't have my ruling in the poll:

"It is the choice of the player creating the character whether the dwarf woman has a beard or not."

There's no need to force that on a player one way or the other, and it's easy enough to have the general populace have either trait and just mix it up 50/50ish.
 

Charlaquin

Goblin Queen
You don't have my ruling in the poll:

"It is the choice of the player creating the character whether the dwarf woman has a beard or not."

There's no need to force that on a player one way or the other, and it's easy enough to have the general populace have either trait and just mix it up 50/50ish.
Doesn’t that fall under “a possible trait, but not universal”?
 


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