D&D 5E Should martial characters be mundane or supernatural?

[CreamCloud0]

the fighter could get the rogue's light weapon stuff and the ranger's ranged weapon stuff but the rogue and the ranger get other non weapon stuff that the fighter doesn't get, they can share features when it comes to weapons.

 

[Minigiant]

And we're back to the fighter eating the rogue's lunch.

Rogues were never snipers.

And the poor Ranger.

You might have an argument there but the Ranger sniping was always spell based.

 

[Remathilis]

Rogues were never snipers.


You might have an argument there but the Ranger sniping was always spell based.

I'm legit interested in what you think a rogue should be doing that a fighter cannot do...

 

[Maxperson]

And we're back to the fighter eating the rogue's lunch.

Not really. The rogue's thing is not sniping. It's sneak attack which is better than a superiority die to deal extra damage and even more so being a skill monkey which the fighter couldn't begin to touch on his best day.

Classes shouldn't have monopolies on aspects of their concept, only their concept as a whole. For instance I have no issues with a cleric or rogue getting superiority dice somehow(feats, subclass, etc.).

 

[Maxperson]

And the poor Ranger.

Most of the class name is range, yet...

 

[Scribe]

Most of the class name is range, yet...

Yep, it's right there!

 

[Maxperson]

I'm legit interested in what you think a rogue should be doing that a fighter cannot do...

Picking locks, picking pockets, sneaking like fighters wish they could sneak, hiding better than fighters can hide, and on and on. They're primarily skill monkeys.

 

[Minigiant]

I'm legit interested in what you think a rogue should be doing that a fighter cannot do...

Skills
Tricks
Sneak attacks

Sniping isn't sneak attacking. It's sniping.

MMOs, board games, and card games got people thinking rogues are "MAX DPS No Health" as they are combat only.

 

[Crimson Longinus]

Sniping isn't sneak attacking. It's sniping.

Sniping is hitting a vulnerable location by help of advantage gained from hiding. That is literally a form of sneak attack.

 

[Maxperson]

Sniping is hitting a vulnerable location by help of advantage gained from hiding. That is literally a form of sneak attack.

So what. Scouts from 3e had a form of ranged sneak attack called skirmish I believe. Rogues don't and shouldn't have a monopoly on that sort of attack.