D&D Movie/TV Should the D&D Movie Been Serious or Not Called D&D?

[nevin]

So we have to wait. The movie just start its tour on streaming. now in pay to view, later it will be on Netflix or Amazon, still millions view to come.
evaluating the effects on sales of such a movie will take years.

no Hollywood doesn't care about the millions to come. If they don't hit certain targets out of the gate (first 3 to 4 months) it's considered a failure. Now netflix and amazon may have a different opinion of the movie in views to come but that won't have any impact on whether another one like this gets made unless it's an amazon or prime only movie.

 

[nevin]

It would have been more interesting if the Bard, Druid and Paladin had been able to cast their own spells. Why was it so important to keep them from outshining the Sorcerer again?

who outshined the sorcerer? he was only effective in the last fight. It was so painful to watch him for most of the movie it felt like he was a 5th level character running with the 20th level heroes. Even in the final fight the Druid and the Barbarian outshined him.

 

[LuisCarlos17f]

Some fantasy franchises are very popular and famous, but they are adaptations, based in written works. This is very important. The writters of the novels have could enjoy more time to add all possible changes when these were necessary. Comics and Hollywood screenwritters have to send the work before a time limit. If you want a really good story, then better betting for the adaptation of a novel.

Conan is a very know franchise, but now almost nobody remember that movie with a beardless Jason Momoa.

Warcraft was "serious" but now the action-live movie isn't too remembered.

Ravenloft should easier to be produced because XIX century buildings could be enough. Tim Burton's Dark Shadows is a good example of how gothic horror with some pieces of comedy can be mixed together. There is also space about dark comedy where the main characters aren't heroes at all, but scoundrels got into the worst troubles and trying to survive.

Birthright has got potential not only for "Westeros" style stories but also more "Court of Thorns & Roses" or "Throne of Glass", fae romances for young adults. But if it is produced before the paper-printed version, maybe some retcons could be too radical

Dark Sun (possible adaptation) shouldn't repeat the same mistakes than Disney's John Carter.

* This sounds something like the pizza was delicious, but somebody wanted different ingredients.

 

[MGibster]

Here the most important one is the movie was enough fun to become a fan favorite. In the first Tim Burton's Batman movie Warner lost money because they spent too many money to promote, but now Batman is the most valious IP by Warner.

I do not believe for a second that Batman (1989) lost money. The budget was $48 million and even if they spent an extra $150 million on marketing the box office return was $400 million. And the marketing blitz including merchadising which they sold to a tune of $750 million dollars. I'm sure some creative movie magic accounting might show that Batman actually lost money, but that's a fiction. They wouldn't have made a sequel in 1991 if the 1989 had lost the studio money.

 

[UngeheuerLich]

That is the publicity part… The movie cost 250, it made back 100 (exact numbers do not matter), so 150 is essentially advertising cost for D&D.

Unless you increase the profit of D&D by that much, the ‘advertisement campaign’ part did not make its money back either, just like the movie did not.

Did it boost D&D? That is likely. Did it do so enough to offset the cost? Pretty unlikely

You can still see it as an investment in a long term strategy, but that is not at all the same as the movie returning a profit, whether directly or via boosted sales - and in that case it is much too early to call it a success (or flop)

I did not say otherwise.

 

[UngeheuerLich]

And if it hurts the brand? The big money is in a successful game ir movie maybe a TV show but they're kinda struggling atm.

How did it hurt the brand?

 

[Krachek]

no Hollywood doesn't care about the millions to come. If they don't hit certain targets out of the gate (first 3 to 4 months) it's considered a failure. Now netflix and amazon may have a different opinion of the movie in views to come but that won't have any impact on whether another one like this gets made unless it's an amazon or prime only movie.

I don’t care about Hollywood! I care about DnD!

 

[mamba]

So we have to wait. The movie just start its tour on streaming. now in pay to view, later it will be on Netflix or Amazon, still millions view to come.
evaluating the effects on sales of such a movie will take years.

Yes, we have to wait for the final numbers, but given where we are after the box office, it won’t be easy to break even, let alone make a sizeable profit

 

[mamba]

I did not say otherwise.

the ‘it might still have made Hasbro happy’ part sounded like you did to me

 

[UngeheuerLich]

the ‘it might still have made Hasbro happy’ part sounded like you did to me

The last report sounded as if it did.
It is not a great success. We will see.