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D&D 5E Silver thread and golden needles

GuyBoy

Adventurer
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These adventures were, to my mind, things of beauty and warm nostalgia when they celebrated our game’s 25th.
The Ravenloft 25th and the Dragonlance one were also part of the Silver Anniversary lineup, though I didn’t get to play or DM them myself, unlike the three above.
I even managed to get together with an old school friend to return to Kendall Keep to revisit the gaming aspects of our teens.

So, with the Golden Anniversary approaching ( and cognisant of Goodman Games excellent work), what gems could get the golden treatment?
Personally, I’d like to see a Return of Tharizdun, with an updated threat linked to the Temple of Tharizdun and the Lost Caverns of Tsojcanth.
Other views?
 

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Omand

Adventurer
A Return to the Return to the Keep on the Borderlands? :p

More seriously, some revamped versions similar to the Silver Anniversary versions is what I would expect and hope for. I think the nostalgia thing is something WotC will seek to mine.

I really hope for a Collector's Box Set like the Silver Anniversary one. Still have mine, slightly damaged, on the shelf.

Cheers :)
 


Yora

Hero
An updated and expanded version of Forgotten Temple of Tharizdun would be cool. As great as the whole place is, it just suddenly sputters out at the very bottom of the chasm, right when you're close enough to touch something really amazing, and all you can do is count your treasure and go home.

I'm not usually a fan of Gygax' work, but the Forgotten Temple is a hugely imaginative place. I think it absolutely has the potential for an iconic event piece, if it just gets some more meat on the bones. Maybe also expand on the journey to, and the discovery of the temple before going inside.
 

GuyBoy

Adventurer
The meat could be good, maybe even a mini-campaign as a 50th celebration. Tsojcanth already has a wilderness area around it, which could be built on easily enough, and Lost Temple (As Yora says) could definitely be expanded around the Cyst-prison of the Chained God.
If the two classics got a revamp in the style of Ghosts of Saltmarsh, it could be a mightily impressive product.
 

Yora

Hero
The Lost Temple is already a follow up to Tsojcanth.

Using both modules as the basis for a Yatil Mountain campaign could be pretty cool. You get both Ygwilv and Tharizdun.
 

Stormonu

Legend
Castle Amber got a non-silver treatment with a boxed set in the 90’s - I kept mine as I think it was rather well done. I’d also consider the Return to the Tomb of Horrors among those ones shown above.

Honestly, I actually didn’t like the content of the Return series - they seemed to mock the originals, especially White Plume Mountain (where the original dungeon has been literally vandalized).

I much more enjoy Goodman’s versions that reprint the original and then include a 5E take. I have both The Lost City and Castle Amber and of what I read, they are really excellent.

As for republished/upgraded adventures of yore, I’d definitely like to see Pharaoh (not necessarily Desert of Desolation), and Bone Hill/Assassin’s Knot/Deep Dwarven Delve in 5E would make me happy as well. As would the Slavelord series (including A0) - I used that series of modules for a long-running thread in my longest running 2E campaign (it was basically A1-A4, G1-G3, D1-D3 and topped with Q1).
 

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These adventures were, to my mind, things of beauty and warm nostalgia when they celebrated our game’s 25th.
The Ravenloft 25th and the Dragonlance one were also part of the Silver Anniversary lineup, though I didn’t get to play or DM them myself, unlike the three above.
I even managed to get together with an old school friend to return to Kendall Keep to revisit the gaming aspects of our teens.

So, with the Golden Anniversary approaching ( and cognisant of Goodman Games excellent work), what gems could get the golden treatment?
Personally, I’d like to see a Return of Tharizdun, with an updated threat linked to the Temple of Tharizdun and the Lost Caverns of Tsojcanth.
Other views?
Hopefully with the 50th edition, WotC will acknowledge all the editions and decades D&D has existed.

With the 25th, in 1999, AD&D only had two editions and basically two decades, so it made some sense to go back to 1980s 1E stuff.

But with the 50th, in 2024, D&D will have had five decades and five editions. Going back solely to the 1980s 1E stuff people are suggesting in this thread would make absolutely zero sense, if it was all they did.

I'd like to see WotC make an effort to do updates for 5E or "return to" adventures for all the decades and editions D&D has had. Not just 1E, for god's sake. There's this weird bias among grogs that basically all the good adventures are from a seven-year span, discussed here: https://dmdavid.com/tag/why-did-so-many-classic-adventures-come-from-7-years-of-dds-45-year-history/

(I have no idea who DM David is btw, hope he's not a monster!)

Yet far more adventures have been published after that, and many of them are extremely good, and frankly, deserve recognition that they've never really had. Campaigns do get recognition, but individual adventures? Not much. That would take some work on WotC's part, but I think it's doable.

It may be kind of hard to find a good WotC 4E adventure (remember, I'm a 4E fan - but I am not a fan of WotC's low-quality 4E adventure output, which was how it was at release), but I'm told that late in the edition, it did happen.

But let's not just have yet more repetition of "D&D between 1978 and 1985 was awesome cool but all that stuff afterwards was lame and forgettable!". Not on 50th anniversary with 5 editions.
 

GuyBoy

Adventurer
You make several good points.
I am a bit of a grognard, more due to age than inclination I think, and the late 70s/ early 80s stuff definitely hug my nostalgia emotions.
But......you are absolutely right. There are now 5 editions to draw from them and I believe all can provide a rich mine for 50th Anniversary treatment.
I have to confess that I never played 4E but I played a lot of 3 and 3.5 and there were some superb adventures, including many from the pages of Dungeon magazine.
In sporting terms, it would be called a “nice problem to have” in selecting a collection to give the Golden treatment to.

A Return to Forge of Fury would be great. Other suggestions?
 

Yora

Hero
Forge of Fury just got a 5th edition conversion a few months back. Probably not going to go with that again.

The reason that they keep going back to the old TSR modules is that until 5th edition, WotC has never really been much in the adventure business. 3rd edition had a couple of dungeon modules right after launch and then four Forgotten Realms adventures towards the end, and that was it, as far as I can recall.
For 4th edtition, the only adventure I could name is Keep on the Shadowfell, which I heard is pretty bad.
 

GuyBoy

Adventurer
Agreed.
I was thinking more Return to Forge of Fury, with an angle that the dwarves halls, having been cleared years ago, have been repopulated by......other things.
Possibly even place it in the Yatils and link to Tsojcanth and Tharizdun story arc?

Separately, I really enjoyed the 2E (I think), Axe of the Dwarvish Lords, though maybe it would be a bit too dungeon-y for modern tastes.

And then, of course, there’s the awesome Night Below ( which already has a thread going about it).
 

Tsojcanth would benefit from a "return to" take. It's a cracking classic dungeon. With Van Richten's Guide out now, a Return to the House on Gryphon Hill would be cool. Set the levels to pick up right after Curse of Strahd and I bet plenty of folks would want to continue that story. Just (as I've said before here) make sure you change the ending so you're not just watching it happen.
 

Stormonu

Legend
The reason that they keep going back to the old TSR modules is that until 5th edition, WotC has never really been much in the adventure business. 3rd edition had a couple of dungeon modules right after launch and then four Forgotten Realms adventures towards the end, and that was it, as far as I can recall.
By that time, Dungeon was pretty much the avenue for adventure publishing (ending with the adventure path).

Red Hand of Doom is a 3E adventure that was well-liked and might be ripe for a silver treatment.
 

Yora

Hero
Oh yeah, somehow completely forgot about that being a thing. I guess the distribution format kept the adventures from being known by a wider audience, though.
 

GuyBoy

Adventurer
Red Hand of Doom would be a great basis for golden treatment.

Talking of Dungeon magazine, I loved many of their adventures with Tears for Twilight Hollow being my overall favourite.

I’d still favour a Tsojcanth/Tharizdun campaign in the Yatils overall, but so many great ideas on here.
 

Yora

Hero
Totally forgot Red Hand of Doom as well...

I guess that one is without competition for being the big famous 3rd edition adventure. Not just because there was barely any competition, but lots of people still really seem to love it. Which makes it even more strange that it's the only one of its kind. Maybe didn't sell as well as splatbooks?
 

Stormonu

Legend
One of the reasons WotC backed away from adventures by 3.5E was that they were, at best, selling them to only 1/5th of their audience (assuming 1 DM + 4 players). Splatbooks, they could sell to everyone.

That’s part of the reason why the 5E superadventures have player content in them these days.
 

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