Simulacra and Familiars?

[Hypersmurf]

By "wrest control" I mean "give counter orders to." A familiar may be its own creature, but as you said "it serves." Thus it will generally take orders from its master.

Yup. And I'd handle it just as if the simulacrum started giving orders to the wizard's Loyal Henchman. If the LH knows it's not the real wizard, he might not obey. If he thinks it is the real wizard, he probably will.

Also, if Kermit counts as the sim's familiar, it shares spells with the sim and its previous master?

Sure. If either one is within 5' of Kermit, they can cast a spell that affects both the caster and the Toad.

Share Spells is a "power of the original".

-Hyp.

 

[James McMurray]

Ah, so you'd just rule it that the original and the simulacrum share the familiar, rather than the sim getting his own familiar. That's an interesting take on it. Not the one I'd go with, but it'd work.

 

[Hypersmurf]

Ah, so you'd just rule it that the original and the simulacrum share the familiar, rather than the sim getting his own familiar.

If there was a pre-existing familiar, yes.

If there wasn't, then they both have the ability "Summon Familiar", so they can both summon their own.

-Hyp.

 

[Limper]

2 No's to 1 Yes and an extensive but related hijack.

Any other thoughts?