Yes. You would create another twin of a second creature you touch. Since it's a single casting of the spell, you do not run into the multiple casting clause.
However, Simulacrum is a Wizard spell, not a Sorcerer spell. Twinning a 7th level spell requires 7 Sorcery points, so you would have to be a Sorcerer 7/Wizard 13 at a minimum to accomplish this.
Even then it's wiz13/sor 5. Not really a good trade-off in my opinion. You give up an instant simulacrum every day a level sooner (using Wish), in in exchange for creating two simulacrums over the course of 12 hours. The latter might be nice for specific times when you really need the extra fire power, but the former is overall better for the long haul IMO.Or use the new feat in Unearthed Arcana.
By the spell as written, generally yes, although Wizard 3 has 1/4 of Wizard Prime's hp - rounded down, so there's a limit where the new copy would have 0 max hp and instantly die. Usually the seventh or so.Can a Simulacrum make a Simulacrum?
By the spell as written, generally yes, although Wizard 3 has 1/4 of Wizard Prime's hp - rounded down, so there's a limit where the new copy would have 0 max hp and instantly die. Usually the seventh or so.
Of course, many dm's would just tell you no anyways.
Simulacrum doesn't duplicate spells effects or gear, just the creature.... So, you need to be a Cleric/Wizard, then.
Cast Simulacrum. The simulacrum then casts Aid on itself at the highest level it can, and casts Simulacrum...
(I'm having fun trying to decide exactly how I wouldn't let this work. There are some really interesting options!)
Simulacrum doesn't duplicate spells effects or gear, just the creature.
If you allow simulacrums to have simulacrums, you can get around the cumulative HP loss fairly easily. Just have the simulacrum duplicate the original creature rather than a simulacrum.
That said, I wouldn't allow a simulacrum to have a simulacrum in the first place.
Aid only temporarily increases your hit point maximum. By that reasoning you could argue that if the original was wearing a belt of giant strength that the simulacrum would have the enhanced strength as well, but that doesn't seem like very sound logic to me.That's not how the spell is written - it just takes the hit point maximum. If you had an effect which decreased your HPM, your simulacrum would have a decreased hp total, too.
I mean, I still probably wouldn't let a group get away with this sort of cheese![]()
Either in FAQ or an answer on the Facebook page, No.Can a Simulacrum make a Simulacrum?
Sometimes I wish I could cast Silence on my players when they talk out of turn.Not when my Murder of Simulacrum cast Silence on the DM!
I know you're referring to AL/SA, but I wouldn't allow a twinned Wish. Wish has a range of Self in its entry, and Twin Spell explicitly excludes spells with a range of Self. It's pretty clear from a RAW standpoint that you can't twin a Wish.This is in reference to the AL ruleset, which:
Anyway, unless Simulacrum successfully snuck its way onto the Sorcerer's spell list, the spell that a Sorcerer would be duplicating in this case would actually be Wish, which Sage Advice explicitly allows for despite it seemingly* making no sense via RAW.
- Doesn't allow Unearthed Arcana
- Doesn't allow Simulacrum to cast Simulacrum or spells which would duplicate its effects (technically this should mean a Simulacrum in AL couldn't cast Wish, but the guidance on Wish says otherwise, so shrug
*A lot of Sage Advice doesn't make sense unless you read them with the understanding that there is often no distinction made or assumed between the direct and the indirect.
Either in FAQ or an answer on the Facebook page, No.
Or, you can just cast Wish for a Simulacrum casting, and twin that.Yes. You would create another twin of a second creature you touch. Since it's a single casting of the spell, you do not run into the multiple casting clause.
However, Simulacrum is a Wizard spell, not a Sorcerer spell. Twinning a 7th level spell requires 7 Sorcery points, so you would have to be a Sorcerer 7/Wizard 13 at a minimum to accomplish this.
Wish duplicates a spell; it doesn't allow you to cast it. You can't duplicate Wish itself because its range is self. Hence, because you're casting Wish and not Simulacrum, it can't be twinned.Or, you can just cast Wish for a Simulacrum casting, and twin that.
Yes, but not one of itself. The spell only works on Beasts and Humanoids, and Simulacrums are constructs.Can a Simulacrum make a Simulacrum?