D&D 5E So.... hide?

[Leatherhead]

I stand corrected, I had to go back and re-read the rules. Sorry, haven't memorized all of 5e yet, lol.

Anyways, so yes RAW, he should definitely get sneak attack dmg. But I'm wondering what the point of re-hiding would be then? Is he trying to get advantage on subsequent attacks as well? If that's the case, see my earlier comment.

It's a defensive measure mostly. It prevents enemy archers and spellcasters from targeting you and engaging in return fire. It also prevents enemy flyers from dive-bombing past the font line for an easy pick. And finally it makes it less desirable for an enemy ground-pounder to break from the front line, as they don't know exactly where the ranged support is.

It's a very good tactic to employ, it's just that most people can't see past sneak attack, despite this being arguably the most convoluted and prone to fail way to get a sneak attack.

 

[CapnZapp]

As long as you the DM allows the rogue to sneak attack in almost every round, you can rule Hiding however you like.

 

[Saeviomagy]

You have never met someone who can conjure deadly fire from their hands.
You have never met someone who could defeat an elephant in single combat armed with a sword.

You have never met anyone as stealthy as a rogue.

Remember that, and scenarios like this are no problem to adjudicate.

 

[lall]

Personally I loathe the idea of the halfling popping in and out from behind an ally - just far too unrealistic and "computer gamey" to me. I removed that hiding ability from halflings to avoid the argument altogether. Substituted it with the wood elf hiding ability instead.

You would need to nerf Skulker too since it gives you both the halfling ability and the wood elf ability and then some.

 

[Psikerlord#]

You would need to nerf Skulker too since it gives you both the halfling ability and the wood elf ability and then some.

Skulker doesnt let you hide behind allies (I dont consider that "lightly obscured" [which is fog, semi-darkness, light brush, etc)] being behind an ally gives you half cover). So no issue with skulker.

 

[Prism]

Remember that the Halfling most likely has to deal with the cover that the fighter provides. So their opponent would get +2 AC assuming the Halfling is using the fighter to hide behind and get advantage to their attack . Also the fighter won't be able too move far if they don't want to reveal the Halfling. If the Halfling moves out from behind the cover the fighter is providing they are no longer hidden.

 

[lall]

Skulker doesnt let you hide behind allies (I dont consider that "lightly obscured" [which is fog, semi-darkness, light brush, etc)] being behind an ally gives you half cover). So no issue with skulker.

No issue as you've already nerfed it.

 

[Melkor]

If the Rogue is hiding behind the friendly Fighter, does he have to move (at least 5') out from behind the fighter in order to shoot his bow at an enemy?

If so, is he still hidden when he moves out from behind the fighter?

 

[fjw70]

If the Rogue is hiding behind the friendly Fighter, does he have to move (at least 5') out from behind the fighter in order to shoot his bow at an enemy?

If so, is he still hidden when he moves out from behind the fighter?

He doesn't need to move. The rules allow shooting through someone else's space, but the enemy would have cover.

Whether he is still hidden if he moves out from the concealment the fighter gives him is not addressed directly in the rules. I would say he is no long hidden the moment he reveals himself (unless the enemies are distracted and focusing their attention elsewhere). Some DMs would say he can get off a shoot before he is revealed.

 

[Aimian_Silverflash]

If the Rogue is hiding behind the friendly Fighter, does he have to move (at least 5') out from behind the fighter in order to shoot his bow at an enemy?

If so, is he still hidden when he moves out from behind the fighter?

PHB, Pg. 177, Left Column under Hiding states:
"In combat, most creatures stay alert for signs of danger all around, so if you come out of hiding and approach a creature, it usually sees you. However, under certain circumstances, the Dungeon Master might allow you to stay hidden as you approach a creature that is distracted, allowing you to gain advantage on an attack before you are seen."

PHB, Pg. 182, Right Column states:
"When travelling at a slow pace, the characters can move stealthily. As long as they're not in the open, they can try to surprise or sneak by other creatures they encounter."

So the player's basically says... ask your DM.

Obviously it should be considered that you are not approaching. You're just popping out to shoot. But you ARE popping out. In the open. Against an enemy that knows you were just there a second ago. Personally, I'd absolutely say you could get sneak attack damage, and get the re-hide. That's fairly cut-and-dry. The question is if you get advantage when you pop out again.

I'd personally say the enemy gets a perception check when you pop out, depending on the lighting, the amount of distractions, and if you've already peppered the same guy with one or more similar attacks from the exact same position. If there's really no reason for him to NOT be able to see you, then he sees you. And you don't get advantage. Simple as that.

Something to keep in mind about Hide this edition guys. It's not invisibility. Read pages 177 and 182 very carefully. There has to be environmental conditions that allow you to be hidden in order to become hidden and stay hidden.