So, I bet that the d12 is getting kicked to the curb...

[Nyaricus]

With 3rd edition, I recall the designers saying something to the effect of"we were almost done the core rulebooks when we realised we had almost written the d12 out of the game."

Now, with 4th edition on the horizon, is there any real incentive to keep the d12? It's a rather clunky di, and the progression from d4 > d6 > d8 > d10 and then d20 would really not miss the d12.

The d12 is rather like the ginger stepchild of a half-elven bard and a half-orc. It's redundant.

So, anyone else thinking that the d12 is going to say bye-bye to core D&D?

cheers,
--N

 

[BASHMAN]

Nah, they'll keep it around. I bet that a few more weapons will make use of it, maybe some spells too. Since casters will have lots of minor at will or /encounter effects, I wouldn't doubt there will be a few spells that do 1d12 damage or something like that. "I cast, Energy Axe!"

 

[Whizbang Dustyboots]

The d12 lobby will grease the right palms to keep the die around. Damned special interest groups ...

 

[GSHamster]

I wouldn't mind if they kicked the d4 to curb as well. It's annoying to read, and doesn't really "roll" well. It just kind of plunks down when you throw it.

 

[Frostmarrow]

I want more dice. Can't they make use for the d16 already?

d4, d6, d8, d10, d12, d16, d20. -See? It fits.

 

[cthulhu_duck]

I wouldn't mind if they kicked the d4 to curb as well. It's annoying to read, and doesn't really "roll" well. It just kind of plunks down when you throw it.

The d4? Aka the caltrop of pain? Try standing on one in socks or bare feet.

Or putting a number of heavy books on one (say hello to punctured cover on soft covered books).

 

[gothmaugCC]

You never know, in an attempt to simplify the game some "brilliant" designer may have decided to yank all dice except the D20. All spells and weapons have fixed damages now, ala DnD miniatures

 

[Gloombunny]

But the d12 is the best die!

If they're going to drop any die I'd like to see the d10 bite it. Frickin' non-platonic solids. Who do they think they are.

 

[Lurks-no-More]

But the d12 is the best die!

If they're going to drop any die I'd like to see the d10 bite it. Frickin' non-platonic solids. Who do they think they are.

Alternity dropped d10, actually; IIRC, it didn't fit in the probability pattern they wanted for the dice system.

 

[Whizbang Dustyboots]

You never know, in an attempt to simplify the game some "brilliant" designer may have decided to yank all dice except the D20.

It works for True20 and Mutants & Masterminds.