D&D (2024) So IS it a new edition?

[Shardstone]

I think it does because...


D&D is the only game seriously attempting to be and capture the mainstream.

Most TTRPGs are too niche and/or have community so small they aren't allowed to do major changes outside outright fixes.

What does that have to do with my message?

 

[Minigiant]

What does that have to do with my message?

That D&D is the largest and most diverse TTRPG. So big and so diverse and many can't grasp what an edition change is because they have different ideas of what an edition is.

 

[Shardstone]

That D&D is the largest and most diverse TTRPG. So big and so diverse and many can't grasp what an edition change is because they have different ideas of what an edition is.

Revised edition is an actual term they just need to look up. Weird how other media with revised editions doesnt have this problem.

 

[Minigiant]

Revised edition is an actual term they just need to look up. Weird how other media with revised editions doesnt have this problem.

(Most) Other media aren't almost completely dominated by one company and reliant on one company to do all the marketing and outreach to those outside the industry.

 

[Oofta]

I don't expect 5.5e to last very long. I expect it will last about as long as 3.0e.

I expect it won't be different enough for many people to justify spending their money on what they perceive to be the same material from past books. It will be a bit like Monsters of the Multiverse. I suspect many people just saw no good reason to buy that book.

There probably won't be a 6.0e. At least not in a recognizable way.

People have been predicting the imminent death of D&D for a decade now. I'm not too worried about it now. Plenty of people turn 12 every day and over the next year or two I think more people will switch over than you expect.

But hey, if you're happy throwing around unfounded doomsday scenarios for the best selling TTRPG ever have fun.

 

[Maxperson]

The way I see it, the 5e revision mostly just changes things on a surface level. The underlying mechanics are still more or less the same. The 3.5e revision, however, changed things on a more fundamental level, like the significant overhaul made to the skill list.

You can have 2014 and 2024 5e PCs in the same party with minimal issues. I think it would be harder to have 3.0e and 3.5e PCs in the same party.

The skills didn't change all that much. A few classes got a few more skill points. A few 3e skills went away or were renamed. The underlying mechanics, though, were unchanged. Both had class and cross class skills. Both had max ranks as level+3, half that for cross class. Raising skills worked the same. Skill were rolled vs. DCs the same.

In 5e spells, feats, classes and subclasses have all changed more drastically than that.

 

[Minigiant]

In 5e spells, feats, classes and subclasses have all changed more drastically than that.

Not really.

See 1e, 2e, and 3e were very simple rulesets. So any change was relatively a BIG thing.

The changes from 1e's attack chart to 2e's attack chart was big. Why? Because that was 90% of the fighter and most of the features of the base thief and cleric.

Wheras 4e was mechanically deep. So going form 4e AEDU to 4.E Essentials slayer and knight relatively wasn't big

Same with 5e 2014 to 2024. the 2024 Ranger is just a cleaned up Tasha's Ranger. TCOE is not a new edition. the 2024 version just Alternate Class features and 5-6 houserules made core.

 

[mamba]

I don't expect 5.5e to last very long. I expect it will last about as long as 3.0e.

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There probably won't be a 6.0e. At least not in a recognizable way.

so what comes next then, 5e 2029?

 

[FitzTheRuke]

I expect it won't be different enough for many people to justify spending their money on what they perceive to be the same material from past books. It will be a bit like Monsters of the Multiverse. I suspect many people just saw no good reason to buy that book.

What's your basis for that claim? I sell D&D books for a living, and I wasn't aware that Monsters of the Multiverse sold particularly poorly, as you say. Is it just that you didn't buy it? That's okay, but I don't think you can extrapolate much from it.

 

[pukunui]

The skills didn't change all that much. A few classes got a few more skill points. A few 3e skills went away or were renamed. The underlying mechanics, though, were unchanged. Both had class and cross class skills. Both had max ranks as level+3, half that for cross class. Raising skills worked the same. Skill were rolled vs. DCs the same.

In 5e spells, feats, classes and subclasses have all changed more drastically than that.

Meh. We'll just have to agree to disagree. Either way it's not a huge enough change. It's still recognizably the same game with more or less the same playability.