D&D (2024) So IS it a new edition?

[SlyFlourish]

So without wanting to rehash the same arguments going on elsewhere—and I don’t think anybody is going to budge on those—I wanted to take a quick snap poll.

Is it or isn’t it, in your eyes? Using whatever criteria you want. Simple question, just yes or no.

No.

 

[FrogReaver]

More importantly; why dont Madden fans care???

They’ve accepted that EA is a soul sucking corporation whose only motive is to milk them for cash. They just happy to be the milk cow and not the beef cow.

For whatever reason we as a whole still expect a little more from the makers of Magic the Gathering. Use Whatever explanation that explains this cognitive dissonance to you.

 

[TiQuinn]

Follow up question. Was 3.5e a new edition?

Yep.

 

[Stoutstien]

I mean if you have to specify which version of a class,spell, other feature you are talking about to avoid confusion it would at least be a different version.

 

[mamba]

I need a ‘I don’t care, it doesn’t change what it is’ option

Went with ‘no’ as that is the closest to what the books are. It’s just a slightly updated and better organized 5e

 

[Vael]

3.5 was a new edition. 4e Essentials was not. The 2024 revised Core books lie somewhere in the middle. I say it's on the "no" side, but to each their own.

 

[Remathilis]

From everything I have seen, it's basically a half-edition. The core mechanics have not significantly changed and the backwards compatibility mostly looks like it will work if you're not picky. It's not as bad as 3.5, but it's closer to that than Essentials (which, with massive errata, did allow 2008 characters as viable choices) or Pathfinder 2 Revised (which is more about presentation and culling OGL but plays fine with the older rules). But to be fair, that's hair splitting.

 

[KYRON45]

If you came to my table with a 3.5e PC and the rest of us were playing 5.whatever edition....until what they were doing conflicted with what i was trying to do....i wouldn't notice.

I might just be the worst DM ever.

 

[Steampunkette]

Yeah. It's 5.5e. It's a new edition.

There have been significant enough changes to the main structural elements of the game, namely classes and heritages but also spells and feats, that I consider it a new edition.

It's not as drastic as the 3e/4e or 4e/5e jumps, but very little -can- be. The change to 4e was SO dramatic in every structural element as to essentially become a new game even if they maintained the "d20 System" basis.

But compare 5.5e to 1e and 2e AD&D and more importantly to the 2e and 2e Revised rules in TSR 2159.

This is how Steve Winter described the Revised 2e changes. Small and subtle changes that you'd need a tremendous memory and to read the books very carefully to find.

5.5e's changes are not small, or subtle. They are writ large and explicitly advertised on Youtube channels discussed by the designers to explain why they're there. Not just minor or even moderate changes to specific class features, either. Entirely -new- features have been added to classes, like the Cunning Strike of the 5.5e Rogue.

If you can do an 8 minute long video about the changes you've made and the "New Twists" to a -single- class, that's a new edition.

 

[R_J_K75]

Will the 3 2014 (PHB/MM/DMG) remain in print? I believe not.

I say they'll probably go out of print but be available on DMGuild as POD for those that want them or on ebay used, or Noble Knight, etc. I think the two major problems WotC did was not giving this version at least a different moniker and marketing it as backwards compatible. Does the new PHB give any advice or description on backward compatibility?