D&D 5E So, People Who Said 5e Would Crash & Burn Were Wrong...
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No. But does it matter? People are wrong about things all the time. I've been wrong about lots of things. I got the weather wrong when I planned my BBQ a couple of weeks ago, and totally misremembered an actor's name the other day.
So some people predicted something wrong. It happens.
So some people predicted something wrong. It happens.
Zak S
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It's ok to be wrong. The fact you were big enough to admit it makes a huge difference, though.
I trust a person who does that.
Flexor the Mighty!
18/100 Strength!
Who cares?
Gosh. I feel validated.
Jester David
Hero
It's enough to have the satisfaction of being right. I don't need to be petty and rub it in their faces.
Y'know, unless they argue and claim it is failing, all evidence to the contrary. But there's not much to be gained by arguing in that instance. You can't argue against a delusion.
Also... it's just nice to be playing D&D again. As much as I love other systems, D&D is special to me. It's great to see a hobby I love doing well. Nothing trumps that feeling.
Y'know, unless they argue and claim it is failing, all evidence to the contrary. But there's not much to be gained by arguing in that instance. You can't argue against a delusion.
Also... it's just nice to be playing D&D again. As much as I love other systems, D&D is special to me. It's great to see a hobby I love doing well. Nothing trumps that feeling.
Tony Vargas
Legend
Fans of the game, who don't want to see it vanish from the shelves?
Zak S
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1. Everyone who can read this has, at least once in their life, gone online to find out things about games.
(A major reason to even have a forum is to find out things about games.)
2. This activity in (1) is much less productive when the things they find out aren't true or when the true things are buried in with not-true things.
3. If someone is wrong and is unable to admit it, then their capacity to interfere with all of us finding out true things about games is much greater.
So: if you are here on a game forum for 99% of the reasons people come to forums, then you should care a lot about who is a reliable vs an unreliable source of information and analysis.
If you like games, if you like having online resources to use the games, if you like having a community you can discuss the games with, or if you like the products of these discussions, I can't imagine any reason not to care.
To the degree games and useful game stuff are part of your quality-of-life, the quality of the discussion affects your life.
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There is something that is most visible in sports that happens in every hobby. Some fans enjoy speculating. Many will speculate without basis. If you know a big sports fan, they can probably tell you about the mountains of articles that predict an entire season based on spring training or some changes in the coaching staff. Every week throughout the season, the fans will speculate about what the next week will bring. Some will be for a team. Some will be against it. The point is that a big part of their enjoyment of their hobby comes from that speculation. It's part of how they engage with their hobby.
I believe you can probably see similar behavior in any hobby among its enthusiasts. RPGs and D&D are no different. There are folks who enjoy to speculate on the business side of things like someone would with a sports team. They see financial success as a win and financial failure as a loss. Different groups will root for different teams (companies/products). All that's fine. It's part of how they engage with their hobby. They are free to enjoy their hobby as they like.
However, it's extremely helpful for people to look for fellow enthusiasts who enjoy the same type of speculation to engage in that aspect of their hobby. Just like there is no one in the world, outside of your league, that wants to hear about your fantasy football league, people who don't engage in the winner/loser speculation of a hobby are not interested in talking or hearing about it. That's the blowback you're getting here. You want to take a victory lap for your fantasy league win, which is absolutely fine, but I don't think you'll find your audience for that here.
If it's something that really interests you, maybe try and come up with a fantasy football type league for it and recruit for it. Maybe use the quarterly ORR statistics or Amazon rankings somehow. You just need some way to find your tribe of people that are engaging with the hobby in the same way you are. I just don't think you'll find many on ENworld.
I believe you can probably see similar behavior in any hobby among its enthusiasts. RPGs and D&D are no different. There are folks who enjoy to speculate on the business side of things like someone would with a sports team. They see financial success as a win and financial failure as a loss. Different groups will root for different teams (companies/products). All that's fine. It's part of how they engage with their hobby. They are free to enjoy their hobby as they like.
However, it's extremely helpful for people to look for fellow enthusiasts who enjoy the same type of speculation to engage in that aspect of their hobby. Just like there is no one in the world, outside of your league, that wants to hear about your fantasy football league, people who don't engage in the winner/loser speculation of a hobby are not interested in talking or hearing about it. That's the blowback you're getting here. You want to take a victory lap for your fantasy league win, which is absolutely fine, but I don't think you'll find your audience for that here.
If it's something that really interests you, maybe try and come up with a fantasy football type league for it and recruit for it. Maybe use the quarterly ORR statistics or Amazon rankings somehow. You just need some way to find your tribe of people that are engaging with the hobby in the same way you are. I just don't think you'll find many on ENworld.
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