So, Wandavision?

[Tonguez]

I'm intrigued by these first two episodes, but I don't yet know if I like it. I suppose with the introduction of color at the end of episode 2, we're heading towards 80's and 90's era tv shows? That makes it all the more fun Emma Caulfield (Buffy) is in this, and that Christophe Beck (also Buffy) does the score.

Assuming this all takes place after End Game, I'm thinking Wanda is actually being kept in some sort of reality warping prison by some insidious organisation, or it is a prison of her own making. All we know is that she is being watched, that she has some manner of control over the reality and that both her and Vision have memory loss. There are also various references to other characters and organisations in the commercials, which are probably red herrings. I'm quietly hoping it's not quite as simple, and that the answer is a lot more clever and surprising.

The commercials so far have referenced Stark and Strucker, the two major sources of trauma in Wandas life (Starks missile that destroyed her home and pushed her in to Struckers experiment).

My absolute favourite part was the Bewitched inspired animated intro to the second episode, which includes a reference to Bova Milk along with a ton of other cool easter eggs.

 

[Umbran]

Also, people of color! Shock! But I think the show might be playing a bit here with the idea that some of the tvshow's characters are more than what they seem.

With respect, I think the presence of people of color on the show is less about signaling that some of the characters are more than what they seem, and more about just being less racist than we were in the 1960s.

Do some of the other characters know they are inside some sort of warped reality? Are they real people? Or is only Wanda real?

That is an excellent question.

 

[Umbran]

Lots of Buffy overlap happening in this show so far.

Anya? What are you doing in 60s TV?

 

[hawkeyefan]

I'd expect that some of the characters are more than just figments of whatever this "simulation" turns out to be. I'd say they're either trapped inside with Wanda and Vision, or they've come to try and help her, or something similar.

Agnes in particular.....I can't help but think of Agatha Harkness, even though I don't think there's much linking the characters other than a similar sounding name.

Beside her, both of the named housewives also seem like they may play a bigger role...Dotty, the antagonistic one, and Geraldine, the friendly one. I mean, we know someone is trying to reach Wanda through the radio, and then the other little intrusions like the toy helicopter and the bee guy. Some seem helpful, and some seem threatening.

 

[Tonguez]

I'd expect that some of the characters are more than just figments of whatever this "simulation" turns out to be. I'd say they're either trapped inside with Wanda and Vision, or they've come to try and help her, or something similar.

Agnes in particular.....I can't help but think of Agatha Harkness, even though I don't think there's much linking the characters other than a similar sounding name.

Beside her, both of the named housewives also seem like they may play a bigger role...Dotty, the antagonistic one, and Geraldine, the friendly one. I mean, we know someone is trying to reach Wanda through the radio, and then the other little intrusions like the toy helicopter and the bee guy. Some seem helpful, and some seem threatening.

the show trailers already identify who Geraldine is Monica Rambeaux so we know she is a real person from outside

I do recall too that Agatha Harkness had grandchildren who fought Wanda and Vision- so maybe Dotty and the others are really them. Dotty seems to know Wanda isnt what she appears to be

 

[hawkeyefan]

@Tonguez I tend not to watch trailers or read synopses and castings and the like to avoid spoilers (so thank you for blurring that out).

It's not hard to see there's more to her just based on the way she's presented in the show. The other likely characters who may be more than they appear are Agnes, Dotty, and I'd say Vision's boss and boss's wife. Some level of importance was given to each of them, and the rest were largely just kind of there.

 

[Umbran]

I do recall too that Agatha Harkness had grandchildren who fought Wanda and Vision- so maybe Dotty and the others are really them. Dotty seems to know Wanda isnt what she appears to be

Agatha Harkness has one son (Nicholas Scratch) and seven grandkids (who form a group - Salem's Seven).

In the comics, Agatha is a powerful witch, and runs New Salem. She eventually goes off to be the governess of Franklin Richards (because, well, it is Franklin, and he's a reality bender). Agatha fights with the Fantastic Four on and off. Her son, a power-hungry jerk, tries to turn New Salem and his kids against Agatha. They fight. Agatha and the FF win. Nick is banished.

Then, Agatha comes to teach the Scarlet Witch. Hilarity ensues...

I don't know that they'd dip into the Salem's Seven before even introducing Agatha herself.

 

[hawkeyefan]

Yeah, I feel like if they want to broaden Wanda's ability beyond just the telekinesis type powers she's displayed so far....which it seems like this series intends to do.....then I think Agatha Harkness would be a likely candidate to show up.

 

[Umbran]

Yeah, I feel like if they want to broaden Wanda's ability beyond just the telekinesis type powers she's displayed so far....which it seems like this series intends to do.....then I think Agatha Harkness would be a likely candidate to show up.

I agree. Also useful if they are bringing in the Fantastic Four any time soon...

Oh, by the way, for Doctor Who fans - Captain Jack Harkness is named for Agatha Harkness...

 

[Rune]

Agatha Harkness has one son (Nicholas Scratch) and seven grandkids (who form a group - Salem's Seven).

Isn’t Agnes’s rabbit in episode 2 named Mr. Scratch?