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"....so we tossed the jerk out...."

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Ivan Alias
I recall one guy who I came into contact with at the game store I used to game at. He was kicked out of five different games, including one he was running. His main sin was in telling other players how they should run their characters, coupled with substandard roleplaying ability.

Perhaps the worse part for me as an outsider was the social dynamic. When you game at a game store, you tend to encounter the same usual suspects, who seemingly live there. Well, as in any social scene, some folks dislike others, but unfortunatly this carried over into different campaigns with people roleplaying their characters into situations suspiciously like whatever current bit of gossip was floating around. This guy in particualr was notable in that score.

Eventually he was gotten rid of when his character died, and the DM informed him that since we had 8 or 9 guys playing, that he was going to have to have him sit out for a while.

Thankfully I have only encountered folks with severly underdeveloped social skills, not anyone violent, manipulative or with a penchant for devouring muffins. Even the funk problem was mitigated, though it did become an issue with one game at the same store. Not with anyone actually in the game, but the fact that we met in the room that the local anime club met in previously. Those folks could raise a stink that would peel paint.

I've since moved and left that scene. I wonder if the usual suspects are still around.
 

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Lonely Tylenol

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VirgilCaine said:
Gee, everyone swallows gum once in a while (don't they? don't look at me like that!), but eating an entire bag?

I could imagine committing some gaffes in my life, but some people are just not taught manners at all.

Is it bad manners to eat gum? I figure it has dubious health merits, but I doubt it's the sort of thing that would offend the queen.
 

Lonely Tylenol

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BlackSilver said:
We try to avoid tossing people out of our group. The problems we have had has all been from one Player-

- He thought that insults were fun to throw about, even when asked multiple times to stop they continued.

- He thought we had a maid. He would not take care of his soda cans, cups, plates, or anything else. He would fix himself a cup of chili or soup (which he brought)- pour the can into a bowl and place it in the microwave to heat without covering it. Big mess. The worst part of that was his bathroom aim- very poor.

- Barrowing books when his is just an arms reach away.

- Parking so no one else could park. His car leaked oil too.

Finally, at my wits end with him it came to the groups attention that I was done with the group because of him. They rallied to me, and he found out that my requests meant that I wanted him to be more aware of others. He begged to stay, said he would change. The group said- "bye-bye," and I said "wait."

He got three chances to clean up his act or get out. Nearly two years later he has one chance left and is one of the most considerate people I know (he stays after to clean up, and treats people with more respect).

We have been really lucky to have such a great group. Though we have had a few "my cousins in town for the weekend and wants to join us," situtations that we have not been happy with.

Wow, that's actually quite inspirational. It's nice to know that some people are actually willing to make changes if it comes down to brass tacks.

Wombat said:
So we are not only freezing him out of the game but actually calling Child Protective Services on him.

Good thing, too. My blood ran cold reading your description and thinking about my own year-old baby daughter, who is a bundle of energy and curiosity.

Still, if you live in the U.S., I can see not being keen on vaccination, considering how much mercury there is in the vaccines there. Up here in Canada, they stopped using mercury preservative in all but one vaccine (Hep B), but I hear tell that by the time a U.S. child is a year old they've been given a mercury dose in excess of the EPA recommended maximum, which is a bit creepy in itself.
 
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Templetroll

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WampusCat43 said:
Fortunately, I'm the DM!

Wait... :uhoh:

One time a fine DM and player went bad... he came in, announced that he had just smoked a great joint outside and was ready to run! It was at my place, the DM chair was this big lving room chair with wide flat arms.

With his announcement we players all looked at each other kinda underwhelmed at the prospect sooooo..... I climb up on the chair arm and sat on the back of it, looming over the guy. (Those from the NC GameDay can imagine this is a rather daunting situation, I'm 5'9 and lets say 200+ lbs) He asked me what I was doing and I replied, "I'm your quasit familiar, *hiss* kill them, kill them all!" and started to play with his hair. He was out of the chair in less than 10 seconds! I slid down and ran a fun thing then let someone else run for a while. He got to run the next day and he never came to my place stoned again! :cool:
 

Lonely Tylenol

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Teflon Billy said:
I've posted this before, but it never really gets old...:)

One of my players (well-thought-of RPG industry freelancer, the late Nigel Findley) asked if he could bring a friend from work to our weekly game. My near-instant response: "Certainly!" (more players cut from Nigel's cloth would add to the group immeasurably).

Due to circumstances beyond his control, Nigel was unable to attend or get ahold of his work-friend to tell him. So the guy shows up anyway. No problem so far.

We invite him in, get him a coffee, and let him play the character of a guy who had just recently left the group (A Were-tiger). The system was GURPS. This is where we join the story....

Dramatis Personae
  • Fraser: Playing a Human mercenary
  • Ian: Playing a Human wizard
  • Mike: playing an elf bard.
  • Myself: Playing the frustrated GM
  • El Creepo: Playing the Were-Tiger.

Teflon Billy: Ok, so you guys are in the tavern where we ended last session, as you are sitting at the table...

El Creepo: Is there a serving wench around?

Teflon billy: Um, sure. "what would you like stranger?"

El Creepo: I'd like your company for the evening. I am a very wealthy man.

Fraser: Does that gnome who was here last week still want to sell us a potion?

Teflon Billy: You don't see him aroun...

El Creepo: What is her answer?

Teflon Billy: Huh? Oh, she laughs and mentions that her husband, the hostler, would likely have a thing or two to say about that.

El Creepo: Hrrmmm

Mike: Ok, so what are we going to do about the head in the box we found? It claims it's the rightful ruler of Cros Mogmun right? Do we believe it?

Ian: Well, I don't. But I think we should try and...

El Creepo: Where did the serving wench go after we spoke?

Teflon Billy: Upstairs, said she was calling it a night and thanked you for your patronage.

Mike: I give her an extra gold piece and tell her "the pleasure was all mine" and give her a sly bardic wink.

Fraser: Anyway, we should definitely get that gnome to...

El Creepo: I'm heading upstairs.

Teflon Billy: For what?

El Creepo: How long does it take me to get up there?

Teflon Billy: Not long, less than a minute, it's only a three story building.

El Creepo: Can I use my tracking to find out where the wench went?

Teflon Billy: (pause) okaaaaaay......(rolls some dice) she's in the third room on the third floor.

El Creepo: I'm going there.

Ian (puzzled) What's up?

El Creepo: I'll knock on her door.

Teflon Billy: She answers and asks "what do you want?"

El Creepo: I push my way into her room and explain to her again that I want her for the night.

Teflon Billy: (getting pretty fed with this guy already and we aren't 2 minutes into the game) Yeah, well...she explains again that she is a married woman, and while she is very flattered, she is simply not interested. Get me?

El Creepo: Well, what she's interested in means very little to me. (gestures to his character sheet) Am I this strong without switching to my tiger-form? How do I make a roll to grab her?

Teflon Billy: What?

El CreepoI'm going to try and pin her down. Can I do that with one hand so that I have the other one free?

*Disbelief all around the table*

Fraser: I'm rolling danger sense...

Ian: I'm preparing a fireball starting now...

Mike: I load a silver bolt into my hand crossbow...

Teflon Billy: (rolls dice) Danger upstairs! Third Floor! Third Room!

My Guys: a ton of babble translating as "we charge upstairs"

El Creepo: Can they react like that? They don't know what's happening up here.

Teflon Billy: You grapple the serving girl easily enough...she draws a knife from her bodice and makes a called shot stab to the vitals (rolls dice) well, she hit.

El Creepo: Only silver can hurt me...

Teflon Billy: No, silver damage doesn't regenerate, but you still take the wounds. In this case, 3 for her roll, tripled for impaling to the vitals is 9.

El Creepo: Well, I'm still up. I guess I'll have to kill her...she should've just cooperated.

Teflon Billy: *shakes head and grumbles* Make your roll.

*She is badly injured, but still up*

Teflon Billy: Gentlemen, you arrive...

El Creepo: That seemed awfully quick

Fraser: Tough :):):):)!

Ian: I unleash my fireball at him (El Creepo's character is burned for a lot of damage…added to the knife wound he is pretty banged up).

Mike: I'll send a silver bolt into his torso (The damage is not huge, but is non-healable)

El Creepo: What are you guys doing!!!????

*Silence + glares*

Teflon Billy: You're up

El Creepo: I jump out the window!

Teflon Billy: Ok, make a jump roll (he fails) damage to both his legs breaks one, sprains the other and puts him unconscious.

*Silence*

Teflon Billy: Well...that was fcuked up!

* A confused babble erupts where El Creepo claims that he was told we were mature and could handle mature themes*

Unbelievable to me to this day!

  • We had never met this guy before
  • His first action upon meeting us was to try and roleplay out a rape scene
  • He started this basically as I said "you all meet in a tavern"
  • he was going to do this in the presence of someone he worked with!

It's one of the few times in my gaming life when I actually "hit the reset button", announcing that none of that had happened and calling the game for that week.

Well, that wins the thread so far... All I've ever had to deal with is smelly, annoying, and dumb. Oh, and the guy who can't be bothered to learn the rules, but at least he's kind of funny.
 

Teflon Billy

Explorer
StupidSmurf said:
WOW!
Un-be-fraggin-lievable!!!!!!! :confused:

I remember Nigel...what a helluva guy.. :(

Yeah...Nigel was the king. We still miss him a lot :(

Did you explain to him why you were kicking him out?

Nigel or El Creepo?

Well, the answer is both actually, though our message to El Creepo ("just get the :):):):) out before we actually kick your ass...") was measurably different than the one we gave Nigel ("Your friend was a pervert")

Nigel quickly told us that the guy was barely a friend, just a guy at work who seemed ok and had expressed an interest after seeing a copy of GURPS Fantasy Folk in Nigel's briefcase.

We still ribbed him mercilessly about his "boyfriend" for months:)
 

genshou

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Ranes said:
I once had a player who was allergic to bathing and I mean once. He never got asked back. Then there was a guy who rubbed everyone up the wrong way but little by little, so he lasted a while longer. However, when I came home from work one evening to find that he was already there (having been invited in by my girlfriend, to whom he had then been rude), that was it. I told him to go and not come back. I'm only 5'6" (in the morning) and this guy was well over 6' but I'm told I have the eyes of a psycho. They've certainly served me very well in confrontations.

Otherwise, considering the other tales of woe in this thread, I've been lucky.
Eyes of the Psycho... yup, that was my 3rd-level feat. Excellent choice, Ranes! :p
 

Uder

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VirgilCaine said:
I prefer having them ripped apart by demons.
Our last problem player was beheaded and zombified. He carried around the PCs' loot for a couple of weeks after I kicked him out.

Sure it was petty, but we tried, oh how we tried to straighten him out.
 

genshou

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StupidSmurf said:
OK, in my past experience I've had not one but TWO situations that I considered to be major "double-you-tee-eff" ones, that revolved around a bad player or players. In both cases, it was players who started out great then turned bad.

This is the oldest incident. The punchline of it is I'm not quite sure we've heard the last of it. Call it a gut feeling.

Long story. Pull up a chair, get a drink. Hopefully, this story fits the criteria. I think it does.

Once upon a time, at GenCon 20, I was introduced to a guy (let's call him Chicken Boy, or CB for short), and his con-babe gamer-girlfriend Jade (not referencing PvP, her eyes are green). We all hit it off nicely, and it turned out that CB and Jade actually lived in my area. Naturally, I invited them into our game. Jade and I had an attraction, but I was loyally married at the time, and well, Jade and CB were exclusively dating. So, those feelings and ideas were pushed aside and we resolved to be friends. OK, so far so good.

Time passes, and it turns out that CB makes it to the game way more than Jade. No prob. He's a nice guy, and a very good gamer. Eventually, though, Jade and CB break up, and it was Jade's idea and initiative. The parting seemed amicable. Jade now makes it less than ever, but we stay in touch. CB is now one of our regulars.

My marriage ended and I ended up dating this girl, let's call her Brunhilda. We ended up moving in together. Brunhilda also gamed. As time went on, it became apparent that Brunhilda and I were a bad match. We broke up, and she began looking for a new apartment. During that interim period, she asks me if it's ok if CB calls her while she's still living with me. Although I think it's a tacky situation, I'm kind of relieved that I'll be spared the guilt of a breakup, besides, how can one say no in a situation like that, without looking like a Richard Head? The upshot of it is, CB and Brunhilda end up dating almost immediately.

I'm actually cool with this, after a fashion. I'm free of Brunhilda, and she and CB are happy, and they still game with me and my group. We're all still friends. Nifty! Unfortunately, Jade's going out with someone, so I just do some casual dating around.

As time goes on, CB starts telling stories that his relationship with Jade wasn't all it was cracked up to be (cue dramatic voice: Yes! Now it can be told...). He calls her abusive (she's 5'3", he's 5'10" and a black belt) and claims she threatened him with a sharp object one night after she lost her temper.

As time goes by, CB begins to change. He becomes crankier, cheaper, and complains more. He and Brunhilda orchestrate a threatened walkout because another of our gamers was getting annoying (which admittedly she was, but in retrospect, not fatally so). This woman tended to flaunt a lot of her material possessions, like several thousand-dollar rings, or very expensive computers. Faced with the prospect of losing four gamers, I confronted her (a friend of more than ten years), and basically asked her to step down. Stupid me. She did, and boy were her feelings hurt.

Then, Brundhilda and CB began bitching about this other guy in our group. A great role-player, he wasn't a very cheerful or happy person, and tended to make quiet snide remarks a lot. Brunhilda was also an extreme left-wing type, and this guy practically worshipped Rush Limbaugh. Again, they put pressure on me to show him the door, again I stupidly caved in and asked him to leave.

Then, Brunhilda and CB began complaining that my two oldest kids were in the game. Out of fairness, not everyone likes kids, and the kids weren't around when the campaign started. But I can say, wearing my DM's hat and not my parent hat, that the mistakes and verbal gaffes they made were nothing worse than whatever I've heard or seen from other gamers. Well, that's where I drew the line, and refused to relegate my kids to the bedroom halfway through the gaming sessions. So CB began setting up another campaign, where he would run it, and began inviting my other gamers to go to their place instead. Our campaign was still intact, mind you, but now cracks were showing...

After two years of silence, Jade and I resume contact. As it happens, she's broken up with her jerky BF, and I was also unattached. We go out to lunch one day and hit it off like we always suspected we would. The next day we go on a date. Instant connection here. After ten years, we can finally date! Hoorah for us, right? :D CB and Brunhilda have each other, Jade and I have each other, so all's well that ends well, right? Riiiiiiiight.....

When Jade and I begin dating, I invite her into the game (show of hands? anyone see where this is heading?). CB has a crap-fit, and insists he won't game with her. Apparently, the "emotional scars" of that one time where she verbally tore him a new one and allegedly threatened him with a sharp object are "too fresh" and can't be forgiven. Mind you, we're talking about a decade ago at the time.

CB and Brunhilda leave the group. CB then sends out a mass e-mail to everyone, explaining that he was leaving the group, cited Jade specifically as the reason, but nobly announces that he won't say why, but invites people to ask him about it later. Wow. What a guy.

Jade tries to write him an apology, clear the air. He completely refuses to acknowledge her. Jade and I talk it over, and she admits that she lost her temper like that once, but no animals were harmed in the making of that incident ;) I also discover why she lost her temper, and boy was it legit. It also turns out that CB was just as toxic for her as she was for him. In other words, both were to blame for what was essentially an unhealthy relationship. But to hear CB talk about it, she's Lizzie-freakin-Borden, and he's some innocent victim out of a Lifetime movie. Oh, and incidentally, I've yet to hear or see any indication that he explained why she got so pissed off with him. Course not. That would imply he's not as guilt-free as he's painted himself.

So, CB and Brundhilda leave. When the dust settles from all of this fallout, my group is basically decimated. Around the same time, I move from the Boston area to my present location. A few of my gamers (one of them a very old friend, let's call him Kedar) decide they don't want to drive an extra hour, and they decide to game with CB. And though they also claim neutrality in this little pseudo-feud, they apparently have listened to his side, and don't want to hear Jade's side, because, well, it's all in the past and what's done is done. Huh??? Kedar also tells me that this is the sort of thing that happens because I decided to date my friend's ex. Huh again? Who dated who's ex first???

I decide that I really don't want to be in contact anymore with CB if he's going to diss my lady and in essence refuse to even acknowledge her existence. I don't want anything to do with him till he removes his head from his posterior. Brunhilda can't fathom why I'm doing this, since, according to her, "this is between him and her, not you." Apparently, the idea of backing your spouse up to this degree is an alien concept. Kedar has also taken me to task about not talking to CB. And never once did Jade ask, imply, guilt, threaten, or anything else, to get me to not talk to CB.

To this day, CB and I don't talk. Kedar and I don't talk. Brunhilda and I don't talk. Jade and I are very happy together and I've yet to see a melee weapon deployed! :lol: We also have a healthy, friendly, robust gaming group of people who genuinely like each other.

The writer part of me thinks it's hysterical that CB and I, over a long period of time, eventually wound up with each others' S.O.'s. It sounds like some romantic comedy starring Sandra Bullock and Hugh Grant. Unfortunately, we can never get together and laugh about it, because he's clinging to this victimhood thing from an incident that at this point is over a dozen years old.

What an effing ass.... :mad:

PS: Thanks for letting me vent. :)
I always love a story with a happy ending.

The things you can learn about people in these threads. StupidSmurf, I'm very happy to read that you and Jade got together after all of that and your relationship is thriving. After all the horse :):):):) (forgive me Eric's grandma) this Chicken Boy put you two through, you're both very deserving of a happy life together. Congrats! :)
 

TheAuldGrump

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WampusCat43 said:
Fortunately, I'm the DM!



Wait... :uhoh:

One of the worst games that I ever played in had a DM who would get stoned halfway through the game (along with about half the players) and end up creating 'new, exciting plotlines on the fly!' that never made sense to begin with, then forget where he was going with the 'new, exciting plotline'. Forget to describe clues, have to go back and reword descriptions, and other really bad DMing mistakes.

Then he would wonder why I was never one of the gamers getting stoned.

The Auld Grump, general stick in the mud...
 

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