D&D 5E Some 5ed Questions

[Hriston]

EDIT: That can't be right because Wisdom 'proficiency' is added to the perception skill roll which would make redundant the keen senses and the ability to choose perception as a proficiency

+3 from Wisdom 16
+2 Proficiency in Wisdom
+2 Proficiency in Perception (Druid skill choice)
+2 Proficiency in Perception (elven 'Keen Senses’)

There is no proficiency with ability scores unless you are playing with a rules variant. In the standard rules, you simply get your ability score modifier, which for Perception is usually Wisdom (thus the +3 for the elf's wisdom of 16), plus your proficiency bonus if you are proficient with the given skill (+2 if the elf is levels 1-4). Because the elf is a druid, it is also proficient with wisdom saving throws, but that proficiency bonus does not get added to ability checks.

 

[Jaracove]

There's a general rule that You're not allowed to add the proficiency bonus more than once.

Your proficiency bonus can’t be added to a single die
roll or other number more than once. For example, if
two different rules say you can add your proficiency
bonus to a Wisdom saving throw, you nevertheless add
the bonus only once when you make the save.
(Player's Basic Rules, p. 57.)​

The few cases where it's multiplied are specific class feature based exceptions.

I'm not adding the same proficiency bonuses more than once' they're all from different sources

 

[Tormyr]

I'm not adding the same proficiency bonuses more than once' they're all from different sources

There is only 1 proficiency bonus. From levels 1-4 it is a +2. Having proficiency in an applicable skill, tool, weapon, or saving throw allows you to add the proficiency bonus to the d20 roll. You only get to add it once to a d20 roll regardless of how many different skill or tool proficiencies might apply to a d20 roll.

 

[Jaracove]

Gotcha

An elf has the following options:

+3 from Wisdom 16
+2 Proficiency in Wisdom (saving throws)
+2 Proficiency in Perception (Druid skill choice)
+2 Proficiency in Perception (elven 'Keen Senses’)

Passive Perception is 15

(a) You add the Wisdom +3 modifier as always

(b) Saving throw proficiencies are just for saving throws

(c) You cannot gain proficiency in a skill from more than once (regardless of the sources)

 

[aramis erak]

I'm not adding the same proficiency bonuses more than once' they're all from different sources

You only have one proficiency bonus. It's a character level feature.

You don't get to add it more than once no matter how many sources you've got.

 

[Tormyr]

Gotcha

An elf has the following options:

+3 from Wisdom 16
+2 Proficiency in Wisdom (saving throws)
+2 Proficiency in Perception (Druid skill choice)
+2 Proficiency in Perception (elven 'Keen Senses’)

Passive Perception is 15

(a) You add the Wisdom +3 modifier as always

(b) Saving throw proficiencies are just for saving throws

(c) You cannot gain proficiency in a skill from more than once (regardless of the sources)

Yes, although the elf druid should choose some skill other than Perception from the list of skills available to druids since the elf gets proficiency in Perception automatically.

 

[Jaracove]

Pheww

Thanks all and sorry for the brain fart

 

[Rune]

Look at it this way: no matter how many ways you have of applying proficiency, the actual bonus is granted from a single source--proficiency. That single source never stacks with itself, except when expertise explicitly breaks this rule.

 

[Jaracove]

DMG Page 82 "The closest threshold that is lower than the adjusted xp value of the monsters determines the encounter's difficulty."

In other words; the threshold total nearest to the monster xp total but still below it, is the correct encounter difficulty?

Reason I ask is because, if a basilisk has 700xp, then isn't the difficulty 'Hard'?

That being the case, isn't this picture's calculated total right?



And this one wrong?

 

[Rune]

You are correct. But that second generator might have been created back when it worked the other way (when the first DM supplement to the online basic rules was released).