Sorcerer Fix - Continued from "D&D Rules" (PART 3)

[Khaalis]

If you want I may be able to make this a pdf linked and all. Its a great resource and would love to use it in a homebrew campaign thats just starting to get together.

PM me or just reply.

edit: So far it seems to weigh in at about 30 pages (11 pt font Garamond, very slightly edited (mostly copied and pasted posts 1, 2, 85, and 86).

When you figure out the exact style you want this is (colors, headers, etc) then we can begin to edit and add in bookmarks etc.

Thanks for the offer. One of these days I "REALLY" need to get off my wallet and buy Acrobat6 so I can convert to pdf. My original word.doc is done in a combination of "Times New Roman" and "Arial" fonts. It comes to 15 pages with all of the Lineages and the Variant material. It is set up at .8" margins around, 2 column with .2" spacing, single spaced lines. (Basically like the PHB.) In this format the core class write-up itself is ~3.2 columns but I have added in a few things NOT in the core listed here (i.e.: I will be using the Spell Weaves developed on the spin-off thread).

Most headers are Blue Times Size 10, main text is Black Arial Size 8. If you want a copy of the word.doc let me know.

 

[Axegrrl]

FWIW, you don't *need* Acrobat 6 to create PDFs... check out the ePublishers forums and PlanetPDF.com for more ideas.

 

[Khaalis]

FWIW, you don't *need* Acrobat 6 to create PDFs... check out the ePublishers forums and PlanetPDF.com for more ideas.

Which forum? The "EN Publishing" forum? And is there anything in specific on PlanetPDF I should be looking for?

Thanks in advance. I am just out of work and will check this when I get home after my chemo treatment .

 

[Coredump]

hmmm... sorry to have missed this for awhile. I have been gone for almost 2 weeks.

I really like the ideas, and would love to see this in pdf format. (Or even a word document.

if either could be mailed to RobertW(at)mail2robert(dot)com I would greatly appreciate it.

As for the Tarot version, I have an innate dislike for choices within choices. You already have a list to choose from, picking tarot, you then need to pick which type of tarot. I would rather see one more generic tarot lineage. But YMMV. That being said. I find the lightning and healing to be a bit too powerful. Assuming a fairly high cha score, the second level sorcerer will be able to cast 4 lightning 'jolts' for 3d6 each. While the healing can cast 4 'CLW' for 1d8 +4 each. Out doing the cleric, and hasn't used any of the sorcerer spells to do it.

I would recommend a mechanic that allowed the use of the 'benefit' once per level, to a maximum of the CHA modifier.

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[Khaalis]

hmmm... sorry to have missed this for awhile. I have been gone for almost 2 weeks.

Welcome back! I was starting to think I got sucked into a black hole. The boards have been dead.

I really like the ideas, and would love to see this in pdf format. (Or even a word document.

I am working on getting a PDF going as well as some true formatting and maybe small art - just so I feel better about releasing it out there as a living document.

As for the Tarot version, I have an innate dislike for choices within choices. You already have a list to choose from, picking tarot, you then need to pick which type of tarot. I would rather see one more generic tarot lineage. But YMMV. That being said. I find the lightning and healing to be a bit too powerful. Assuming a fairly high cha score, the second level sorcerer will be able to cast 4 lightning 'jolts' for 3d6 each. While the healing can cast 4 'CLW' for 1d8 +4 each. Out doing the cleric, and hasn't used any of the sorcerer spells to do it.I would recommend a mechanic that allowed the use of the 'benefit' once per level, to a maximum of the CHA modifier.

Thanks for the comments. I know that the Tarot option was a bit odd, but it was done on a special request to fit the style of the AU Witch class (which I kind of liked). However, considering this is for "Core" and not "AU" I think you may be right. I do feel that for that particular build the choices should stay as I dont like the idea of saying that at X level you get Wands, at Y level swords, etc.

As for reduction, I think the CHA uses per day should stick as it is the same as all of the other lineage builds, but the power needs dropped. How are these?

Lesser Arcana - Wands (Air): Lightning – The tarot sorcerer can release a blast of electrical energy from their hand at a target within 50 feet. It inflicts 1d6 points of electricity damage plus 1d6 per five sorcerer levels, although a Reflex saving throw (DC 10 + half the sorcerer’s level + the sorcerer’s Charisma modifier) reduces the damage by half. The sorcerer can use this ability a number of times per day equal to their Charisma modifier. This is a standard action.

Lesser Arcana - Cups (Water): Draught of Life – The tarot sorcerer can channel the healing energies found in the power of the cup’s water to heal a living creature’s wounds. The sorcerer’s touch heals 1d4 +the sorcerer’s Charisma modifier damage. The sorcerer can use this ability a number of times per day equal to their Charisma modifier. This is a full-round action.

Pentacles and Swords I think are fine.

Thoughts?

 

[Khaalis]

To those that requested a formal version, the word document is prepared and weighs in at 16 pages (including the necessary OGL statement). Once the final tweaks are hashed out (or the thread dies), I will convert it to PDF and it will be ready for those interested.

 

[micr0c0sm]

My aim SN is micr0c0sm - IM me (since i don't have PM on these boards) and you can send me the word.doc, or just mail it to micr0c0sm(at)optonline(dot)net I can convert it straight to pdf in minutes, and then we can work on editing.

Sorry I have been gone for 2 days there was a convention here (I-CON).

 

[Khaalis]

I've been playing with the PDF and think I have it set but its at 1.77Mb and I cant seem to compress it any more (1.57Mb zipped). If there is no more commentary, I will send it to those who have requested it.

 

[Zoatebix]

ooh! Can I make a late request for a copy? zoatebix at hotmail dot com, please!
I'll have an easier time looking over everything once I print out a hard copy. Are you going to start a new thread with the pdf as an attachment, to try to generate more constructive criticism?
Thanks so much!
-z

 

[Coredump]

As for reduction, I think the CHA uses per day should stick as it is the same as all of the other lineage builds, but the power needs dropped. How are these?

I understand. I think this is just a personal preference. I would rather get small upgrades for many levels, rather than a big upgrade every few levels. I also allows for a 'better' ability without it being overpowering at low levels. The ability to do a 3d6 jolt isn't that overpowering at 2nd level, being able to do it 4 times is. So one method would be to limit the damage/effect, one method would be to limit the frequency. I prefer frequency, you prefer damage/effect.... not a problem.

Lesser Arcana - Wands (Air): Lightning – The tarot sorcerer can release a blast of electrical energy from their hand at a target within 50 feet. It inflicts 1d6 points of electricity damage plus 1d6 per five sorcerer levels, although a Reflex saving throw (DC 10 + half the sorcerer’s level + the sorcerer’s Charisma modifier) reduces the damage by half. The sorcerer can use this ability a number of times per day equal to their Charisma modifier. This is a standard action.

Looks like the right idea. But seems much less beneficial by 5th level or so. 2d6 is pretty good. But is starting to look weak, and the range is iffy. I would suggest something like every 3 levels, or perhaps upping the range eachtime also. By 15th level 4d6 isn't very enticing, but if it had a significant range... maybe.

Lesser Arcana - Cups (Water): Draught of Life – The tarot sorcerer can channel the healing energies found in the power of the cup’s water to heal a living creature’s wounds. The sorcerer’s touch heals 1d4 +the sorcerer’s Charisma modifier damage. The sorcerer can use this ability a number of times per day equal to their Charisma modifier. This is a full-round action.

I think it is fine. Still makes him a better healer than a cleric for the first couple levels, and close for a couple. (For the cleric it means using all spells for healing, for the sorc... still has spells to use.)... but that may not be too bad.


And it may help to start a new thread with the .pdf attached. It may work to generate more discussion. Or you may be tired of all of this/