Special Conversion Thread: Finishing off giants and their kin

[Shade]

Nah, I just figured we needed a breather after the seelie. We can queue them up in the "Finishing off the Fey" thread after the faerie phiz.

 

[freyar]

Ok, rob stats from other giants of appropriate sizes? Compare to the pre-existing Antaeus and Enceladus?

 

[Shade]

Yeah, let's look closely at Antaeus and Enceladus for stats.

For the unique powers table, we might get some ideas from Wikipedia:

"The Gigantes identified by individual names were Alcyoneus slain by Heracles, Porphyrion wounded by Zeus with lightning bolts and finished off by Heracles, Enceladus and Pallas killed by Athena, Polybotes crushed by Poseidon beneath the island of Nisyros, Hippolytus slain by Hermes with his sword and wearing the cap of invisibility, Ephialtes of the Aloadae shot by Apollo with arrows, Gration slain by the goddess Artemis with her arrows, Eurytos slain by Dionysos with his pine-cone tipped thyrsos, Agrios and Thoon clubbed to death by the Moirae with clubs of bronze, Mimas slain by Hephaestus with bolts of metal and Clytius by Hecate with flaming torches."

 

[freyar]

That certainly suggests interesting immunities/vulnerabilities. I should try to look these up in Edith Hamilton's mythology, too.

Abilities by size?

 

[Shade]

I kinda like random abilities, regardless of size. Spot checking a few of the names, it looks like serpent tails for legs were a repeated theme, and "born with armor and weapon" was another.

Looking at stats of the two we've got...

Antaeus (L): Str 25, Dex 10, Con 19, Int 8, Wis 11, Cha 12
Enceladus (C): Str 53, Dex 10, Con 45, Int 7, Wis 13, Cha 14

...and comparing to other giants, perhaps base ability scores of...

Large: Str 25, Dex 10, Con 20, Int 8, Wis 11, Cha 12
Huge: Str 35, Dex 10, Con 24, Int 8, Wis 11, Cha 12
Gargantuan: Str 43, Dex 10, Con 28, Int 11, Wis 13, Cha 12
Colossal: Str 51, Dex 10, Con 32, Int 8, Wis 11, Cha 12

...and allow a random boost to one or more stats?

 

[freyar]

Hehe, I actually meant ability scores by size, as in your list above. That looks good, too! Maybe for the random boost, have the DM roll, maybe more times for more HD or something?

 

[Shade]

That sounds about right.

Rock throwing/catching standard for all?

 

[freyar]

Yeah, since these are uber-giants.

 

[Shade]

We'll need to figure out base HD for each size category.

Maybe Large 15 HD, Huge 20 HD, Gargantuan 30 HD, Colossal 40 HD?

To allow for Antaeus's nonstandard HD (32), we could make the advancement ranges overlap each size, and note that in the text. Does that work?

 

[freyar]

That's fine by me! Those probably work well with the base ability scores above, too.