Special Conversion Thread: Finishing off giants and their kin

[demiurge1138]

Agreed to both. Their slam damage should go up to 1d6, as is in the original stat block.

 

[freyar]

Actually 1d8 in the original, though I guess you mean 1 step up from the hill giant's slam which got reduced from 1d6 to 1d4?

 

[Shade]

Updated.

Skills: 34 ranks
Stick with hill giant skills (Climb, Jump, Listen, Spot)?

Feats: 5
Stick with hill giant feats [Cleave, Improved Bull Rush, Power Attack, Improved Sunder, Weapon Focus (greatclub)]?

 

[demiurge1138]

I'm tempted to drop either Improved Bull's Rush or Improved Sunder, but I'm not sure for what. Improved Initiative?

 

[Shade]

How about Reckless Offensive, since they're feral?

 

[demiurge1138]

Drop both of those for both Reckless Offensive and Improved Initiative? I don't see them concentrating on weapons, but I do think they need to compensate for their awful Dexterity.

 

[Shade]

Sounds good.

For skills, Climb 8, Jump 8, Listen 9, Spot 9?

 

[demiurge1138]

Skills sound good, except should we perhaps give them some Move Silently? Wights are all about moving silently.

 

[freyar]

All above sounds good. For skills, how about Climb 6, Jump 6, Listen 7, Move Silenly 8, Spot 7?

 

[Shade]

Updated.

Do we want to give 'em a racial bonus on Move Silently like the wight as well?

Hill giants' favorite weapons are oversized clubs which do 2-12 +7 points of damage (double the damage of a man-sized club plus their strength bonus). They hurl rocks for 2-16 (2d8) points of damage. Their targets for such attacks must be between 3 and 200 yards away from the giant. They can catch rocks or other similar missiles 30% of the time.

Barrowes can use any attack form they did in life, being slightly stronger in undead form. They inflict 1d8+7 hp damage per hit. They cause 2d8+7 hp damage when wielding a weapon, and boulders they hurl inflict 2d20 hp damage. They have a maximum range of 250 yards when hurling boulders

Rock Throwing (Ex): The range increment is 120 feet for a hill giant's thrown rocks.

Increase the range increment to 180 feet like a stone giant?