Special Conversion Thread: Finishing off giants and their kin

[freyar]

Skills: Spot 13? or Climb 7, Spot 6?

 

[demiurge1138]

Climb 7, Spot 6. Do we want to give them a racial bonus to hide in stony environments and/or camouflage like a gargoyle?

 

[freyar]

I could see that, but not as much. Maybe +4?

 

[demiurge1138]

I could see that, but not as much. Maybe +4?

+4 works for me.

 

[Shade]

Can we go +8 for Hide in rocky areas? Otherwise, at Large with no ranks and no Dex modifier, it is already at a -4. Since it used to be able to suprise 75% of the time, I'm thinking a total bonus of +4 (-4 size, +0 Dex, +8 racial) is closer to the orginal intent. Thoughts?

 

[freyar]

That's ok with me, sure. We can also swap some ranks into Hide; I don't see a big argument for Spot, in particular.

 

[Shade]

Updated, swapping Spot for Hide.

 

[freyar]

Feats: Power Attack, Cleave, Point Blank Shot, Quick Draw?
Environment looks good.
tribe (20-30 plus 1d4 7th-level shamans and one 10th-level chieftain)
CR 8?
3000 lb? What are we filling in about the skin? Gray and pebbly?
Giant and a pidgin form of Common.

 

[Shade]

Most of that looks good!

3000 lb?

That may be a bit high, despite the pebbles in their skin. The 17-foot cave giant only weighs 4,000 pounds, and the equal-height crystalline troll weighs only 600 pounds. How about 1,000?

What are we filling in about the skin? Gray and pebbly?

I left room for color variations, but I'm not sure if we need any.

 

[Big Mac]

I left room for color variations, but I'm not sure if we need any.

I would guess they would have a natural colour (if scrubbed) but that would be burried under a layer of dirt. If these guys pick up dirt an small stones in their skin, wouldn't colour vary according to terrain they live in?