Special Conversion Thread: Finishing off the fey

[freyar]

Instead of X/day, shouldn't the change size be dependent on the location in the forest (per the text), or do we think that's too complicated? And I think it should definitely be able to change by up to 2 size categories.

 

[demiurge1138]

I think the location thing should be flavor-text only--they're more likely to be in Tiny form at the edges of their territory, etc.

 

[Cleon]

Instead of X/day, shouldn't the change size be dependent on the location in the forest (per the text), or do we think that's too complicated? And I think it should definitely be able to change by up to 2 size categories.

A Medium-sized fey with unlimited size change up to +/- 2 categories would work, but upon reflection it may be easier to stat it at its largest size (since that's the form it'll likely fight in) and have a size-changing power to allow it to shrink down to Tiny or any size category in between, with a sidebar giving what skill and AC changes it gets when it's reduced to Tiny-size to avoid detection.

So, Huge Fey?

Maybe with Advancement to Gargantuan or even Colossal, since they can grow "tall as a fir tree"?

I think the location thing should be flavor-text only--they're more likely to be in Tiny form at the edges of their territory, etc.

I agree, from my limited recollections of Russian mythology there's little consistency in the Leshy's size-changing powers.

 

[freyar]

I don't think Gargantuan or Colossal, at least if we're sticking to the 2e text. They go from 1 foot tall (Tiny) to hill giant size (Huge). But I could see the argument for whichever size to use as a base; I had just thought the middle would be convenient.

 

[Shade]

Instead of X/day, shouldn't the change size be dependent on the location in the forest (per the text), or do we think that's too complicated? And I think it should definitely be able to change by up to 2 size categories.

I think the location thing should be flavor-text only--they're more likely to be in Tiny form at the edges of their territory, etc.

I agree. The simplest and most elegant mechanic is probably to keep them at Medium base, with the ability to change up or down 2 size categories, not dependent upon location in the forest.

 

[freyar]

So should it say Tiny to Huge then, specifying that the spell consequences happen in sequence (Medium to Large, then Large to Huge, for example)?

 

[Shade]

In other words, it may only change 1 size category up or down per use?

I swear we've seen another creature like this...

 

[freyar]

Well, I don't mind how many steps it goes at once (though maybe what you suggest is simpler), I just want to be clear that the changes for 2 categories are double the changes for 1 size category.

 

[Shade]

Here are a few more examples of size changing abilities...

Size Change (Su): Once per day, a shimnus can change its size in a fashion similar to the effect of an enlarge person spell. The size change from Medium to Huge grants a +16 size bonus to Strength, a –4 size penalty to Dexterity (to a minimum of 1), and a –2 penalty on attack rolls and AC due to its increased size. Its natural reach increases to 15 feet. The shimnus can remain at this size for 10 rounds. This ability is otherwise like the enlarge person spell.

Size Change (Su): At will, spriggans can change their size in a fashion similar to the effect of an enlarge person spell. The size change from Small to Large gains +8 Strength, -4 Dexterity, +6 Constitution and -2 attack bonus and Armor class. A spriggan's short sword has the same attributes as a Large short sword when enlarged. An enlarged spriggan is unable to make a sneak attack or use its spell-like abilities.

 

[freyar]

Hmm, seems like they're not all entirely consistent with each other or enlarge person. Of those, I think I prefer the spriggan change. I dunno, how much of a change do we want this to be, and how close to enlarge person do we want to keep it?