Special Conversion Thread: Finishing off the fey

[demiurge1138]

I don't think we need to stick very close to enlarge person at all. If we do go for more of a spriggan version, we should pare down the strength of the Medium leshy.

 

[Shade]

Lets go that route. So something more like this?

Size Change (Su): At will, leshies can change their size by one category. A leshy cannot increase its size larger than Huge, and may not decrease its size smaller than Tiny. With each size increase, make the following adjustments: +8 Strength, -2 Dexterity, +4 Constitution and -1 attack bonus and Armor class. With each size increase, make the following adjustments: -8 Strength, +2 Dexterity, -4 Constitution and +1 attack bonus and Armor class. Hit points remain unchanged. In Large or Huge size, a leshy may use its rock throwing ability.


While this doesn't exactly match the usual size increase chart, it seemed easier to adjudicate to keep everything constant. Ditto for making the hit points remain constant.

Thoughts?

 

[freyar]

That seems fine, though the second "size increase" should be a "size decrease." Put the Medium size Str back to 10-11?

 

[Shade]

How about Str 17? That way, when we add 8 for Large size, it's as strong as a hill giant like the original text.

One drawback to the current size change description, though. In Tiny form, the leshy will only have a Str of 1!

 

[freyar]

Ah, but I thought it's only as powerful as a hill giant when it's Huge.

How about we go with +/- 4 Str with each size category and start with Str 15 or 17?

 

[Shade]

That works for me. Any objections?

 

[Cleon]

That works for me. Any objections?

I think the +/- 4 Strength works better.

I'd be tempted to drop the Con change (since it'll change the saves and makes the unchanged HP look funny) and add a +/- 2 Natural Armour adjustment to keep its AC the same.

 

[Shade]

Yeah, that makes good sense.

So...

Size Change (Su): At will, leshies can change their size by one category. A leshy cannot increase its size larger than Huge, and may not decrease its size smaller than Tiny. With each size increase, make the following adjustments: +4 Strength, -2 Dexterity, +2 natural armor, and -1 attack bonus and Armor class. With each size decrease, make the following adjustments: -4 Strength, +2 Dexterity, -2 natural armor, and +1 attack bonus and Armor class. In Large or Huge size, a leshy may use its rock throwing ability.

 

[freyar]

Just to clarify, the change in AC is just the size category modifier, and there is an additional change in AC due to the change in Dex, right? The wording trips me up like the hp and Con.

 

[Shade]

Yeah, that could probably be better defined...

Size Change (Su): At will, leshies can change their size by one category. A leshy cannot increase its size larger than Huge, and may not decrease its size smaller than Tiny. With each size increase, make the following adjustments: +4 Strength, -2 Dexterity, +2 natural armor, -1 attack bonus, and -1 size adjustment to Armor Class. With each size decrease, make the following adjustments: -4 Strength, +2 Dexterity, -2 natural armor, +1 attack bonus, and +1 size adjustment to Armor Class. In Large or Huge size, a leshy may use its rock throwing ability.