Special Conversion Thread: Finishing off the oozes
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Cleon
Legend
Updating the Working Draft.
I fixed one typo ("an" dense pudding), but that's the only problem I could find.
I think it's ready to slime free.
Cleon
Legend
Gray Pudding next?
Seems pretty straightforward.
Adapt the Dense Pudding by cutting the disease, increasing acid potency, lowering Int a tad, and making it sneakier.
Cleon
Legend
Have we already got the AD&D stats on this thread, or does someone need to post them?
Shade
Monster Junkie
We'll need 'em. And I've got 'em...
Gray Pudding
Climate/Terrain: Subterranean
Frequency: Uncommon
Organization: Solitary
Activity Cycle: Any
Diet: Any
Intelligence: Low (5)
Treasure: Nil
Alignment: Neutral evil
No. Appearing: 1
Armor Class:
Movement: 9
Hit Dice: 10
THAC0: 11
No. of Attacks: 1
Damage/Attack: 4d8
Special Attacks: Surprise, acid
Special Defenses: See below
Magic Resistance: 20%
Size: L-H (8’+ diam.)
Morale: Steady (11)
XP Value: 3,000
Often mistaken for a stone pudding at a distance, this is perhaps the deadliest of the subterranean puddings. Gray pudding uses its deep gray coloration to blend in with shadows and the natural gray hue of stone. This gives its opponents a -4 surprise roll penalty. More corrosive than black pudding, the gray variety emits a powerful acid, delivering 4d8 points of damage. This acid eats through wood, leather, and chain mail in 1 round, and plate mail in 2. Each magical plus of an enchanted item adds 1 round to its survival time. In addition, the creature automatically delivers 4d8 points of damage each round it is encasing a victim. A creature reaching -10 hit points is dissolved, with not even a scrap of bone left behind.
Gray puddings are unusually susceptible to certain spells, provided those enchantments get past its magic resistance. These spells include flesh to stone, which acts as a slow spell on the pudding, and airy water, which alters the pudding’s form enough to drown it in its own fluid mass in 2d4 rounds.
Cleon
Legend
Well I've got them around somewhere, but if I can get someone else to do the work of posting them...
Okay, so the main differences vis-á-vis an AD&D black pudding are:
Faster movement (9 vs 6)
Sapiency (Int 5-7 vs Int 0)
More damage (4d8 vs 3d8) due to potent acid
Sneaky (-4 surprise penalty)
Magic Resistance (20%)
Divide when struck by fire or lightning spells
We've got most of that already with our earlier conversion of the Stone Pudding, as I mentioned previously.
Once we agree on how much we increase the acid damage and what bonus to give it on Hide and Move Silently we're effectively done with the stats.
It's stealthier than a Dense Pudding (-4 surprise vs -2), but its lower Int means it'll have fewer skill points. That suggest we'll need some pretty hefty skill bonuses to keep it sneakier.
The original monster did one-third more damage. If we give the "upgraded" version the same boost to the SRD Black Pudding's 2d6+4 plus 2d6 acid (average damage 18) it'll need to do 24 damage on average. i.e. it needs to do about 6 points more acid damage, suggesting 3d8 or 2d12 acid.
As for the sneakiness, I'm still fancying the +8 racial bonus to Move Silently and +4 racial bonus to Hide I suggested earlier.
Shade
Monster Junkie
I guess 3d8 makes the most sense, but I like the d12 solution.
I agree on the rest.
Agreed on all counts (included 2d12 love).
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