Special Conversion Thread: Moldvay's Undead

[freyar]

Aren't we calling bite during Imp Grab something like Chew or Gnaw? But otherwise, I think it does.

Should the illusion bit be an ability or flavor?

 

[demiurge1138]

The illusion bit should be flavor, I think. Also, the improved grab is currently keyed to the bite, not to the claws.

 

[Shade]

Ok, fixed improved grab.

I borrowed the maul from the mara and tener, so we've used that terminology at least twice.

Updated.

Do we want to do anything with the infant mortality/infertility bits from mythology? Maybe a variant curse?

 

[freyar]

Maul is like rend, and I think you have that right. I was talking about "bite."

I'm thinking flavor that they like to eat kids. Maybe the illusion bit helps entice them to eat older victims as well. But I'd like to do an ability for the 12 1/2 names, maybe something to foil divinations?

 

[Shade]

Yeah, you're right...

Gnaw (Ex): An agriotherium that hits with both claw attacks may make an immediate free bite attack. Additionally, it deals automatic bite damage every round it maintains a grapple.

 

[freyar]

Any thoughts about the names?

 

[Shade]

I like your idea about foiling divinations (and probably truenames if using any rules that require that).

Back to gnaw for a second...the reason I went with "bite" rather than "gnaw", is because it doesn't have a bite attack listed anywhere else. I borrowed it from the wyste.

 

[freyar]

Ahhh. Ok, that works for me. The problem is that there are too many variations of the same mechanic in 3.X. I like that Pathfinder uses rend for any attack, for example.

Definitely agreed on the truenames.

 

[Shade]

Here's a stab at it...

12 and a half Names (Ex?): Each gelloudes possesses twelve and 1/2 secret names. As a result, any divination magic that requires knowledge of the target's name will fail, as will any spells or abilities that require knowledge of a creature's truename.

 

[demiurge1138]

That strikes me as an Su ability. For one thing, it blocks supernatural effects. For another, how exactly do you explain that half a name?