Spell resistance vs. wall of ice

Quasqueton

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Wall of Ice
Evocation [Cold]
Level: Sor/Wiz 4
Components: V, S, M
Casting Time: 1 standard action
Range: Medium (100 ft. + 10 ft./level)
Effect: Anchored plane of ice, up to one 10-ft. square/level, or hemisphere of ice with a radius of up to 3 ft. + 1 ft./level
Duration: 1 min./level
Saving Throw: Reflex negates; see text
Spell Resistance: Yes
How does spell resistance react to this wall? Of all the wall spells, only fire and ice allow spell resistance. Fire I can see the resistant creature just moving through -- it is not a physical barrier (just a painful barrier). But wall of ice actually puts up a physical barrier. What does spell resistance allow a creature to do concerning this wall?

Quasqueton
 

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3.5 SRD
Even when the ice has been broken through, a sheet of frigid air remains. Any creature stepping through it (including the one who broke through the wall) takes 1d6 points of cold damage +1 point per caster level (no save).

The same is written in the Spelldescription in the 3.5 PHB and that is the only thing I can imagine you can use your SR by means of this spell.
I hope that helps you.
 


I'm not so sure. Normally SR only applies when you are targeted by a spell by a spell, not when encountering a static magical force.

SPELL RESISTANCE
Spell resistance is a special defensive ability. If your spell is being resisted by a creature with spell resistance, you must make a caster level check (1d20 + caster level) at least equal to the creature’s spell resistance for the spell to affect that creature. The defender’s spell resistance is like an Armor Class against magical attacks. Include any adjustments to your caster level to this caster level check.
The Spell Resistance entry and the descriptive text of a spell description tell you whether spell resistance protects creatures from the spell. IN MANY CASES, SPELL RESISTANCE APPLIES ONLY WHEN A RESISTANT CREATURE IS TARGETED BY THE SPELL, NOT WHEN A RESISTANT CREATURE ENCOUNTERS A SPELL THAT IS ALREADY IN PLACE. The terms “object” and “harmless” mean the same thing for spell resistance as they do for saving throws. A creature with spell resistance must voluntarily lower the resistance (a standard action) in order to be affected by a spell noted as harmless. In such a case, you do not need to make the caster level check described above.
 
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What Voadam said. A Golem with magic immunity (unbeatable SR) that enters an area that has a Web could be affected.

Andargor
 

But in this case, the damaging magic isn't released until the wall is shattered. The target becomes, for a particular part of this spell, the creature that tried to break through it.

AR
 

Altamont Ravenard said:
But in this case, the damaging magic isn't released until the wall is shattered. The target becomes, for a particular part of this spell, the creature that tried to break through it.

AR

No I think that the Magic created the wall and maintain it's existence, it's not targeting anybody. Getting hurt by the wall is like getting hurt by a sword +3, it's magical but it still hurts you because you are not the target of the magic effect.

Somebody external decided to use the result of the magic effect to hurt you, in this case the person who decided to run through the wall is not the target of the spell but the target of its decision.
 

In the description of Spell Resistance, there is the passage "In many cases". Are there examples of when SR applies when the creature is not the target of the spell? Are they talking about area of effect spells as fireball?

AR
 
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Altamont Ravenard said:
But in this case, the damaging magic isn't released until the wall is shattered. The target becomes, for a particular part of this spell, the creature that tried to break through it.

AR

Except the cold effect is there for rounds and is static. Targeting is not a part of it after the spell is cast.
 

Altamont Ravenard said:
In the description of Spell Resistance, there is the passage "In many cases". Are there examples of when SR applies when the creature is not the target of the spell? Are they talking about area of effect spells as fireball?

AR

Protection from evil has a spelled out exception where summoned creatures with SR may be able to push through the spell's protection.
 

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