We all know that if a spellslinger wants to identify a spell being cast that they must make a spellcraft check to do so. What if they cannot see or hear any of the spells components?
Example:A wizard casts a silent, still, charm person spell. Would an spellcaster be entitled to a spellcraft check to determine what had just happened? WOTC's books seem to be conflict one another on this matter.
From the PHB, page 74 under the description of the spellcraft skill:
"15+spell level Identify a spell being cast.(You must see or hear the spell's verbal or somatic components.) No retry."
From this excerpt it would seem the answer is no. The oppposing spellcaster would not be given an oppurtunity to make a spellcraft check since the spell was cast as silent and still.
However, in Tome and Blood on page 19 under the heading "Spells being cast" the above reference is directly contradicted. It states,
"For each of these elements(i.e. verbal or somatic component) you cannot discern, the DC increases by +2. For example, if a foe casts a still and silent spell, your spellcraft check DC increases by +4.
You can use spellcraft to identify a spell even if the spell has no verbal, somatic, or material component-theres no mistaking the concentration magic requires. However, you must still be able to see or hear the spellcaster."
So what if the caster is invisible and casts a silent, still spell?
So, which one is correct? I also recall seeing a line in a feat from Song and Silence(one of the bard feats I believe) stating something to the effect that you can't make a spellcraft check against a silent still spell. Anyone able to verify this?
Example:A wizard casts a silent, still, charm person spell. Would an spellcaster be entitled to a spellcraft check to determine what had just happened? WOTC's books seem to be conflict one another on this matter.
From the PHB, page 74 under the description of the spellcraft skill:
"15+spell level Identify a spell being cast.(You must see or hear the spell's verbal or somatic components.) No retry."
From this excerpt it would seem the answer is no. The oppposing spellcaster would not be given an oppurtunity to make a spellcraft check since the spell was cast as silent and still.
However, in Tome and Blood on page 19 under the heading "Spells being cast" the above reference is directly contradicted. It states,
"For each of these elements(i.e. verbal or somatic component) you cannot discern, the DC increases by +2. For example, if a foe casts a still and silent spell, your spellcraft check DC increases by +4.
You can use spellcraft to identify a spell even if the spell has no verbal, somatic, or material component-theres no mistaking the concentration magic requires. However, you must still be able to see or hear the spellcaster."
So what if the caster is invisible and casts a silent, still spell?
So, which one is correct? I also recall seeing a line in a feat from Song and Silence(one of the bard feats I believe) stating something to the effect that you can't make a spellcraft check against a silent still spell. Anyone able to verify this?
