Spellfire and Monks

[adienpryde]

I have a 10th lvl Monk that has Spellfire Wielder and will become a Channeler at 12, but I was wondering, Can I release spellfire upon my monk unarmed attacks and if so do I roll twice, once for my UA attack, and once for my Spellfire touch attack, or once. And if once is it a UA attack or touch.

 

[gfunk]

Generally speaking, the rules state that monks (and other PCs) can use unarmed strikes to deliver touch attacks. You make one attack and, if it is successful, you can apply the unarmed damage and the spell effect discharges.

 

[Darklone]

I have a 10th lvl Monk that has Spellfire Wielder and will become a Channeler at 12, but I was wondering, Can I release spellfire upon my monk unarmed attacks and if so do I roll twice, once for my UA attack, and once for my Spellfire touch attack, or once. And if once is it a UA attack or touch.

Spellfire is a ranged touch attack, right?

 

[adienpryde]

Both

 

[Magic Slim]

You could ask your DM to play is as such (which would be, IMO, logical, and has been proposed many times on these boards): If your attack beats your target's touch AC, but not total AC, only the spellfire attack is delivered.

Slim

 

[kreynolds]

There's one thing everyone has overlooked...spellfire isn't a touch spell.

 

[adienpryde]

Yes it is, right from the book.

Using Spellfire

As a standard action, a spellfire wielder may expend stored spellfire energy levels as a melee or ranged touch attack(maximum range 400 feet),dealind 1d6 points of spellfire damage per level expended (Reflex half, DC 20).

 

[kreynolds]

Yes it is, right from the book.

Huh? Where in there does it say "touch spell"?

 

[adienpryde]

not a touch spell but touch attack. Page 19 in the Magic of Faerun book under Using Spellfire. The first sentance.

 

[kreynolds]

not a touch spell...

Exactly. Spellfire is a supernatural ability. Using a supernatural ability requires a standard action. Spellfire requires a standard action. Making a melee attack requires a standard action. You only get one standard action per round. Spellfire is not a "1 action" or "1 standard action" touch spell.