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Copies of Spelljammer are starting to show up. Mike Long of Tribality is in receipt of the books and has tweeted some photos!

 

[Yaarel]

It might be a reimagination and a continuation of a new meta plot. I am very keen to have a Dark Sun that floats around a black hole, that sounds a lot more interesting then the old red sun to me.

Is it possible 5e changed Athasspace to Doomspace to avoid issues like slavery?

 

[humble minion]

Is it possible 5e changed Athasspace to Doomspace to avoid issues like slavery?

Possible, but more likely that they didn't want to 100% commit to the place actually being the real Athas because a whole lot of Dark Sun fans (including me) think Athas is best off isolated by itself away from the rest of the D&D multiverse, and that having the only 5e representation of it jammed in as a tourist reststop or cameo in a completely different campaign setting that is utterly thematically divorced from anything Dark Sun, would be really damn annoying.

Or maybe the campaign is just going to be visiting Athas's moons and not actually landing on the planet, so perhaps the inhabitants of Doomspace don't know what the natives even call the place. I mean, would you land on Athas if you didn't have to? The place is AWFUL...

 

[Yaarel]

Possible, but more likely that they didn't want to 100% commit to the place actually being the real Athas because a whole lot of Dark Sun fans (including me) think Athas is best off isolated by itself away from the rest of the D&D multiverse, and that having the only 5e representation of it jammed in as a tourist reststop or cameo in a completely different campaign setting that is utterly thematically divorced from anything Dark Sun, would be really damn annoying.

Or maybe the campaign is just going to be visiting Athas's moons and not actually landing on the planet, so perhaps the inhabitants of Doomspace don't know what the natives even call the place. I mean, would you land on Athas if you didn't have to? The place is AWFUL...

Heh, I went ballistic when they did that to Eberron. I sympathize.

 

[Dried]

Athas could be in the Dark Hole. You could go in but never go out.

 

[Yaarel]

Athas could be in the Dark Hole. You could go in but never go out.

I doubt the designers plan that.

But a DM looking for a place to connect to Darksun, that can work.

 

[Yaarel]

I was under the impression that crystal spheres still existed in these books.

They arent crystal, but they are spheres.

 

[Yaarel]

To be perfectly honest, I'm not too happy with the Astral Sea enveloping the wildspace of every world. I kinda liked having different cosmologies and afterlives for each setting (so Dragonlance could have its three-plane set while Oerth uses the Great Wheel while my homebrew world can go wild) without needing to standardise the cosmology of every world (which was the biggest problem with Planescape imo - it made every world boring by tying all of them together under the same cosmology). That option seems to be gone if you're using 5e spelljammer now.

My view of the astral sea − as a realm of thought − is it is infinite.

There can be many different multiverses in the astral sea. The multiverse relating to the Forgotten Realms-space with its proximity of nearby alignment-oriented astral dominions where the FR gods inhabit, is just one of the possible multiverses within the vast sea.

Moreover, the astral sea can be a Schrodingers Cat situation, where one multiverse may-or-may-not exist relative to an other multiverse.

 

[OB1]

Even more excited for this than I've been, looks incredible. We're actually pausing my current home-brew campaign to run through this adventure over the next few months. Can't wait.

As for Doomspace, is it possible that they filed off the Athaspace serial numbers because they didn't want Dark Sun to become DMGuild eligible yet? Or because that part of the adventure tested well enough that they decided to move forward with a full DS CSG rather than just have it as a big cameo?

 

[SkidAce]

Although, if you want to have a continuous Material Plane in your own headcanon, it would take zero work to just say traveling through the haze and shifting to the Astral is an optional choice when you get there, and Wildspace just continues to the other systems, which are very distant and basically impossible to get to as your air would almost cetainly run out long before you could even travel a fraction of the distance to them. So basically, everyone would just go via the Astral anyway.

This is what I will be using, in order to facilitate travel the "long" way, i.e. space like our space.

In my head canon, the ethereal brings magic with it, so there are areas of thick magic (most D&D campaigns), thin magic (some steampunk or quasi magical settings) and low or zero ethereal areas (our Earth). It helps the fictional conceit that some of the stars we see from D&D worlds might be Earth or something like it.

Gotta have room for the SS Beagle to fly!

 

[SkidAce]

Yeah, and afterwhile all these previews are a bit too much. 9 days left until the book releases, let it go already and leave something for me to look forward to. For the record I didn't read the ToC. Looks like at least one person changed their mind and decided not to buy this product because of this preview. Sometimes the internet is a pox on the world.

Fair statement, but I also thing someone upthread changed their mind and decided to buy it.