Spells and Epic Spells.

[Bob5th]

So most have seen the Hellball spell in Dragon. Epic spells do not have levels you just gain epic level spells based on your Knowledge score. My question being will you also gain or be able to take a feat like the gods have that gives you spell slots of 10th level and up so you can metamagic high level spells? So could I have a Maximized Empowered Meteor Swarm in a 14th spell level slot and Hellball in a Epic level spell slot?

 

[Crothian]

So most have seen the Hellball spell in Dragon. Epic spells do not have levels you just gain epic level spells based on your Knowledge score. My question being will you also gain or be able to take a feat like the gods have that gives you spell slots of 10th level and up so you can metamagic high level spells? So could I have a Maximized Empowered Meteor Swarm in a 14th spell level slot and Hellball in a Epic level spell slot?

Well, until the actual book comes out everything is conjucture. So, I'd just wait and see.

 

[Xeriar]

So most have seen the Hellball spell in Dragon. Epic spells do not have levels you just gain epic level spells based on your Knowledge score. My question being will you also gain or be able to take a feat like the gods have that gives you spell slots of 10th level and up so you can metamagic high level spells? So could I have a Maximized Empowered Meteor Swarm in a 14th spell level slot and Hellball in a Epic level spell slot?

Well, what I know is from last year and all, but then it basically worked like a spell-slot feat, only where you would gain a spell slot in a level one higher than any you currently had (for a given class, of course).

Still not sure how it will work though, we shal certainly see

 

[Shard O'Glase]

I haven't seen hellball anyone want to explain to us idiots who never buy dragon.

 

[Bob5th]

Hellball
Bursts like fireball I think.
10d6 Acid
10d6 Fire
10d6 Electric
10d6 Sonic
and 10d6 to caster

 

[Plane Sailing]

Hellball
Bursts like fireball I think.
10d6 Acid
10d6 Fire
10d6 Electric
10d6 Sonic
and 10d6 to caster

I have to say, this strikes me as a particularly un-epic spell. It has no flavour to it, does an average of 140 damage, less on a save or if the targets have resistances to any of the components (and thus isn't going to take out the kind of foes your epic character is fighting) AND it hurts you too!

Compare that with Fireball plus Energy Admixture(Sonic) and Energy Admixture(Acid) Spell, a 3+4+4 = 11th level slot which does 10d6 fire, 10d6 sonic, 10d6 acid and doesn't hurt you at all - achievable with just two epic wizard levels under your belt in the existing FR setting. (If a DM was exceeding generous he might let you use Energy Admixture and Twin Spell to get 40d6, but I believe that each metamagic has to be placed independently on the original spell).

Hellball an epic spell? Nah.

Now if it did that over a 500ft radius, I'd agree that it was epic

Cheers