Spider-Man 3 Villain

[CrusaderX]

Well Jameson's son was already in space, they could easily say they brought back some rocks that contained "Venom" in them.

That's pretty much exactly how they did Venom's origin in the Spidey cartoon from the early-mid 90's.

 

[Hand of Evil]

Electro! Don't really see it but...

 

[reveal]

Electro! Don't really see it but...

I was just thinking that this morning. He definitely could pull off the "everyman" role. I can see him as a normal guy who gets zapped and goes crazy with power.

 

[spatha]

My guess would be Electro or Scorpion. Both big dumb guys. I think this would he would be a perfect match for either villain.

 

[Jeremy Ackerman-Yost]

BTW, Sam Raimi is on record as not liking Venom, so unless Marvel's basically told him he has to include him, I wouldn't expect to see him--or Carnage--in the movie.

If you are correct, I shall become a religious man again, for we shall be saved from the WORST CHARACTERS EVER. I HATE Venom, and Carnage was, if anything, worse.

I still stand by Venom. Other than the Lizard most of Spidey's enemies (his oldest anyway) are pretty hokey. Venom would be a good choice.

Are you seriously claiming that Venom was NOT hokey?

Spidey would have to fight a dark, evil version of himself...

Exactly, reason #47 why Venom IS hokey.

Plus, he's the epitome of the done-to-death Marvel cliche of "EXTREME" versions of their characters. Only then, he proved to be not EXTREME enough, so they went and made Carnage. Ack!

I'm hoping for a Kraven/Lizard double team on Spidey. I always liked both of them as villians (one just a normal guy who is an expert hunter the other a person Spidey respects and admires).

Both are good Villains individually, but I really think that the Batman franchise has proven that doubling your villains is a BAD IDEA. Besides that, IME, the Spidey movies need to spend their time on developing the core characters, not on extraneous villain exposition.

 

[Kanegrundar]

Are you seriously claiming that Venom was NOT hokey?

For me? I don't think Venom was hokey until they turned him into an anti-hero. I always liked Venom before that. Each to their own, I guess.

As far as the butchering of Venom's origin. It can be done, but my major failing in movies based off of books and comics and whatever that I love is that I'm a total purist. I can get past it if done right, but some things (like the possible change of Angel to a chick in the next X-Men movie) just tick me off. If it ain't broke, don't fix it. However, to put in Venom's actual origin as written in the comics would require too much, so the cartoon's origin would work pretty well.

Kane

 

[Desdichado]

How can you be a total purist? We already have three published Venom origins -- original canon, the animated cartoon, and the Ultimate version. All three are radically different. Which one is the "pure, right" one and why?

If Venom is included, and I think he's a great choice as, despite Canis' objections, he's a wildly popular character, we'll almost certainly up that to four Venom origins.

 

[Kanegrundar]

How can you be a total purist? We already have three published Venom origins -- original canon, the animated cartoon, and the Ultimate version. All three are radically different. Which one is the "pure, right" one and why?

For me, it's the one that first appeared in the original canon. I stopped buying comics before The Ultimates series came out, so I don't know anything about it. The cartoon is never considered pure since there are things that are always changed for the sake of trying to cram in all the best stories into a small time frame out of decades of material. The first appearance from the original comics (not the Ultimates resetting) is usually the origin that I go with.

Kane

 

[devilish]

Hmm. Nah. I always envision Sandman as more thuggish with a Bronx or a Brooklyn accent. No offense. Church may have played a dense goofy airplane mechanic on Wings but I don't see him as thuggish.

He wasn't bad in 'Sideways' -- that movie (and probably Ned and Stacy) dispelled
his goofy-idiot phase for me.

Shame it's not Kraven -- he would break from the experiment-gone-wrong
theme (though he was hyped up on enhancement drugs, he was more a
hunter than science experiment).

He would also fit with the psychological direction that Raimi has been going in.
"Killing" Spiderman and taking his place --- only to lose his mind when
he took on the mantle.

 

[Cannibal_Kender]

I'm still thinking its gonna be a Lizard/Green Goblin 2 tag team on our friendly neighborhood web-slinger.