Spider-Man 3 Villain


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Staffan said:
I don't recall it exactly, but basically the symbiote is an experiment in treating cancer that Peter's father worked on along with Eddie Brock's father (Eddie Brock is a college student, BTW). Peter finds it in a canister in a lab or something, tries it on, and becomes stronger, faster, tougher when he wears it. However, after a while (within the span of one comic book IIRC) he realizes that it's also doing stuff to his mind, so he forces the symbiote off him. Then the symbiote searches out Eddie instead (presumably he was pretty close to where Eddie was).
That's roughly right, but not quite. Peter actually destroyed the symboite, but Eddie had another copy, because, hey, Brock and Parker senior were research partners. Eddie was pretty pissed at Peter for ditching their father's creation, but I don't remember exactly else is grudge was. He was pissed about something though...

Ultimate Carnage, although he looked cool, was pretty dumb though; the symbiote that Peter "destroyed" apparently was able to repair itself somewhat, and it went around attacking and mummifying people, including Gwen Stacey, IIRC. Kinda defeats the purpose of calling it a symbiote if it doesn't actually need to enter a symbiotic relationship with anything...
 

I only ever collected McFarlane's Spider Man, so take this with a grain of salt. But to me, the "classic" Spidey villians are: Green Goblin, Doctor Octopus, Kingpin, Lizard, and Venom. Those are the ones that just about everybody knows about, including people who aren't big-time comics-fans. I'd be surprised if they brought in any lesser-known villian, for the simple fact that the moviegoing public would probably say, "Kraven who?"

Don't mean to step on any toes--just pointing out that they'll probably stick to the most well-known Spiderman BBEG's for financial reasons.

Spider
 


A quick comment (1) and a question (2):
  1. What I'd ideally like to see is a 10-15 minute intro in the vein of James Bond opening sequences wherein Spidey takes down a minor super-villain. That way you can cameo old skool villains like Rhino or Scorpion, or Electro, or what-have-you, yet not entangle the actual main plot of the movie with too many villains.
  2. I guess I'm a bit out of touch. Can anyone explain this Toxin character to me in a nutshell, and (even more importantly) point me to an online gallery of pictures of him?
 

Taelorn76 said:
Here is an update on the villians for SM3

http://www.darkhorizons.com/news05/050323e.php.

Obviously it's not concrete info, but at this stage in production what is ;)
Still... it does not bode well. Venom as the villain might actually keep me out of the theater, because it will be the first sign that marketing has won over screenwriting.

Joshua Dyal said:
...What I'd ideally like to see is a 10-15 minute intro in the vein of James Bond opening sequences wherein Spidey takes down a minor super-villain. That way you can cameo old skool villains like Rhino or Scorpion, or Electro, or what-have-you, yet not entangle the actual main plot of the movie with too many villains...
That's actually a really good idea. I'd vote for it. :)
 

Joshua Dyal said:
A quick comment (1) and a question (2):
  1. What I'd ideally like to see is a 10-15 minute intro in the vein of James Bond opening sequences wherein Spidey takes down a minor super-villain. That way you can cameo old skool villains like Rhino or Scorpion, or Electro, or what-have-you, yet not entangle the actual main plot of the movie with too many villains.

I'll second that motion
 

Spider said:
I only ever collected McFarlane's Spider Man, so take this with a grain of salt. But to me, the "classic" Spidey villians are: Green Goblin, Doctor Octopus, Kingpin, Lizard, and Venom. Those are the ones that just about everybody knows about, including people who aren't big-time comics-fans. I'd be surprised if they brought in any lesser-known villian, for the simple fact that the moviegoing public would probably say, "Kraven who?"

I'd say it doesn't matter at all, because as far as the majority of the movie going public is concerned they're all lesser known villains that instill a "_____ who?" response.

Joshua Dyal said:
  1. I guess I'm a bit out of touch. Can anyone explain this Toxin character to me in a nutshell, and (even more importantly) point me to an online gallery of pictures of him?

Nope, I can't say I've ever even heard of him before. He hasn't even gotten a mention in ASM yet.
 

Joshua Dyal said:
I guess I'm a bit out of touch. Can anyone explain this Toxin character to me in a nutshell, and (even more importantly) point me to an online gallery of pictures of him?

He first appeared in the Venom/Carnage LS that came out last year, in #1 to be exact. From what I know, he's a police officer that was impregnated with Carnage's symbiote kid. He's a good guy symbiote. That's about all I know. You should be able to find some reviews of it... here's one.

Here's a picture of Toxin from the cover of his upcoming series.

As for Venom being the villain, Raimi has gone on record before as saying he didn't like the character, and he definitely seems to have a lot of control over the Spider-Man scripts and direction. Whether he's changed his mind or not, I couldn't say.

He's also said that he didn't really like Electro or Sandman- who were evidently in the original script for #1- because he prefers villains that resonate with the character of Peter Parker, and have some connection to him. Again, that may have only been his feelings about the first movie, and now that Pete's somewhat established, he may have changed his mind.

I wouldn't put too much stock in the Man-Wolf/Venom reports that are coming out. I've seen reports debunking those rumors as well already.
 
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