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[SPOILERS] THE Return of the King Thread

Celtavian said:
Some parts were corny and contrived, like when Aragorn waited for the orc army to surround him before charging and when Frodo fell for Gollum's simple tricks. Sam's and Frodo's friendship would never be so easily sundered and Aragorn definitely wouldn't have been that poor a battle commander.
Have you not being paying attention? :)

I don't know about Aragorn, but the reason Frodo fell for Gollum's simple tricks is because of the ring. One of its effects is it makes the bearer paranoid. Just look at Gollum. It was the evil influence of the ring that sundered their friendship (temporarily). The ring is a very powerful force. The rift between Sam and Frodo is one of the things that drives that fact home.
 

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Saw the trilogy showing yesterday, very awesome...I feel so geeky that I have tickets #1-3 (well, just 1 right now, as the other two are with my friends) from my theatre, heh.

Curiously, did anyone else get a feel of Star Wars in the Oliphant battle, just Oliphants instead of those walker vehicles? Same with Sam and Frodo's dressing up in orc armor...

Maybe I was just really really tired, but that's what my mind connected with immediately after seeing both of those scenes, heh.

Hrm, with more sleep perhaps I can write more coherently later.
 

Solliyr
Yeah i did. The AT-AT battle.

As for Sam and Frodo.. well Lucas borrowed from Tolkien.. and so now it's Jackson's turn..
 

Sollir Furryfoot said:
Curiously, did anyone else get a feel of Star Wars in the Oliphant battle, just Oliphants instead of those walker vehicles?

Heh. I leaned over to my friend beside me as the Rohirrim charged and said "That armour's too strong for blasters. Use your harpoons and tow cables!"

-Hyp.
 

Damn, but this was a good movie.
I agree with what ShadowDancer said about the Ring aiding in Frodo's paranoia. And Gollum was really, really mean this time around. As well he should have been.

Almost everything about Pellenor Fields was incredible, but I think special mention should be given to the fell beasts (much more impressive than in TTT) and the battering ram.

And, is it just me, or was the deformed orc general reminiscent of Sloth from The Goonies?

Demiurge out.
 

Sollir Furryfoot said:
Curiously, did anyone else get a feel of Star Wars in the Oliphant battle, just Oliphants instead of those walker vehicles?
:D

I think everyone in the theater (okay, at least the group I went with) thought about the battle of Hoth when the Oliphants rolled in.
 

I will not say much, because I cannot do this movie justice.

I will say that this is the only movie to have truly reached down deep and crushed my heart, made me feel more then I thought I could ever feel for characters on a screen.

At one point - one of my favourite scenes from the book, when the riders sing 'Death', it just became too much. I just... sobbed. I let out everything. I cried, and my whole body shook with emotion.

Never before have I felt that way about a movie. And I fear that I never will again, which is a shame. Because this movie put me there. It made me see.

And that's all I wanted to say.
 

Shadowdancer said:
Have you not being paying attention? :)

I don't know about Aragorn, but the reason Frodo fell for Gollum's simple tricks is because of the ring. One of its effects is it makes the bearer paranoid. Just look at Gollum. It was the evil influence of the ring that sundered their friendship (temporarily). The ring is a very powerful force. The rift between Sam and Frodo is one of the things that drives that fact home.

And let's face it, who better to know how to take advantage of what the ring does to you than Gollum?

And the scene where Sam gave the ring back to Frodo was great. There's this pause where he's thinking about it. Really flashed back to the opening scene.
 

Originally Posted by Celtavian

Some parts were corny and contrived, like when Aragorn waited for the orc army to surround him before charging
The point was he was not trying to win the battle, he was trying to buy Frodo time, keep Sauron's attention away from Mt. Doom.
 
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Shadowdancer said:
Have you not being paying attention? :)

I don't know about Aragorn, but the reason Frodo fell for Gollum's simple tricks is because of the ring. One of its effects is it makes the bearer paranoid. Just look at Gollum. It was the evil influence of the ring that sundered their friendship (temporarily). The ring is a very powerful force. The rift between Sam and Frodo is one of the things that drives that fact home.

Sorry, Frodo is not that stupid (even with the influence of the ring) and would never have fallen for that simple trick, thus to me it seemed contrived. If you felt it appropriate, then have at it. I don't, no use debating it.
 
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