Spycraft 2.0 is OGL... Odd

[Denaes]

I got Spycraft 2.0 tonite and havn't had much chance to read through it in any depth.

One thing I notice is that there is no mention of being OGL on the cover, nor is there any liscense attached. It mentions that it's OGL in a paragraph discussing how it's not d20 anymore... And no mention of what exactly is open and closed content.

I thought you had to have an OGL logo on the book and the liscense at least and what is open content. Maybe thats only a requirement for d20 and is just an option for OGL?

 

[philreed]

nor is there any liscense attached. It mentions that it's OGL in a paragraph discussing how it's not d20 anymore... And no mention of what exactly is open and closed content.

It's in there. Check the page before the index.

I thought you had to have an OGL logo on the book and the liscense at least and what is open content. Maybe thats only a requirement for d20 and is just an option for OGL?

There is no OGL logo.

 

[wingsandsword]

One thing I notice is that there is no mention of being OGL on the cover, nor is there any liscense attached. It mentions that it's OGL in a paragraph discussing how it's not d20 anymore... And no mention of what exactly is open and closed content.

I thought you had to have an OGL logo on the book and the liscense at least and what is open content. Maybe thats only a requirement for d20 and is just an option for OGL?

There is no logo for the OGL, all the OGL does is let you use the rules laid out in the SRD, it does not let you use any logo or advertisment of compatiblity. The d20 System Trademark License has the d20 logo, and lets you advertise that you're compatible with Dungeons and Dragons. The OGL doesn't include that, all it requires is a declaration of what is open and closed in the copy of the Open Game License in the book, which is typically right in the very back of the book.

A lack of a unified symbol/logo and being able to officially declare right on the product that it's compatible with D&D is the price of not being able to put the explicit details of character creation in the book. You can make a complete game with the OGL using the SRD's that doesn't require the D&D Players Handbook in any way, but the cost is not being able to use the d20 Logo.

 

[Denaes]

ok, so nevermind me being crazy.

 

[Khorod]

A number of companies have been emphasizing OGL on the cover of their products with their own logos/etc. Particularly Mongoose with its OGL line.

 

[Denaes]

I think the way True20 had the OGL Liscense made me think it had to be included... actually reading the liscense it says that it must be affixed to any OGL product (number 10 in the liscense).

Section 8 says that you have to incidate exactly what is open content.

Spycraft doesn't do either. They mention what mechanics come from Star Wars and say that other open content came from WotC and is used with permission.

Maybe they're not using the standard Open Game Liscense. If I recall my gaming lore correctly, Spycraft 1.0, while d20, also used closed content (the Star Wars stuff at the time) and they had to do a special liscense to get it.

What this really means to me is nothing. Just sort of intriguing.

 

[trancejeremy]

Hmmm, they should have to include the OGL. But the stuff they used from Star Wars made it into open content via Unearthed Arcana (the VP/WP stuff), so they shouldn't need special permission anymore.

 

[philreed]

I think the way True20 had the OGL Liscense made me think it had to be included... actually reading the liscense it says that it must be affixed to any OGL product (number 10 in the liscense).

Section 8 says that you have to incidate exactly what is open content.

Spycraft doesn't do either.

Spycraft 2.0 does both.

One more time, in bold this time:

Look at the page before the index.

 

[philreed]

But the stuff they used from Star Wars made it into open content via Unearthed Arcana (the VP/WP stuff), so they shouldn't need special permission anymore.

That was the only thing that surprised me. I expected they would have dropped the Star Wars reference.

 

[Denaes]

Spycraft 2.0 does both.

One more time, in bold this time:

Look at the page before the index.

You're right. My friend flipped through it and couldn't find it. I've never seen the liscense not be the last page of the book. But it's there.