Stacking To Hit/Damage bonuses on Action Point

[Goonalan]

Just after an opinion or indeed clarification, the example is-

11th Level Human Wizard uses an Action Point to use an attack power-

Gains +3 bonus To Hit with Human Action Surge Feat

The Warlord (provided he can see/hear him) confers +2 To Hit & +5 Damage bonus from Tactical Presence & Assault

And the Wizard has another Paragon bonus- can't remember the exact name Battle Mage something which gives him a +4 To Hit bonus.

What stacks with what?

And if the Mage makes multiple attack rolls with his Action Point, like an area/burst etc then does the bonus apply to all rolls made by spending the Action Point (I'm pretty convinced this is the case)?

Cheers

 

[Pickles JG]

They are all unamed bonuses from different sources so they all stack.

They all apply to each attack made in an area power & I believe they would with a power that gave multiple attacks like twin strike, its certainly the way we play it.

This is one of those cases where the lack of a definiton of "attack" leaves an ambiguity (or rather the multiple definitions).

 

[Goonalan]

They are all unamed bonuses from different sources so they all stack.

They all apply to each attack made in an area power & I believe they would with a power that gave multiple attacks like twin strike, its certainly the way we play it.

This is one of those cases where the lack of a definiton of "attack" leaves an ambiguity (or rather the multiple definitions).

That's the way we played it too, just thought I'd ask after the event, the Wizard generally doesn't miss much after spending an Action Point, what with him being +9 To Hit & +5 damage.

Cheers

 

[MrBeens]

Battle Mage - When you spend an action point to take an extra action, you also gain a +4 bonus to attack rolls until the start of your next turn.
This applies to all rolls of an area attack. Interestingly if you spend the action point before you took a standard action you would get the bonus for your normal standard action too and any other attack rolls you made before your next turn (opportunity or immediate actions)

Action surge - You gain a +3 bonus to attack rolls you make during any action you gain by spending an action point.
This applies to all attack rolls of an area power, but only on the one granted by the action point.

Tactical Presence - When an ally you can see spends an action point to make an attack, the ally gains a bonus to the attack roll equal to one-half your Intelligence modifier.
Although this is worded slightly differently I would say this applies to all rolls of an area attack - things that are resticted to just one attack are generally worded like "the next attack roll".

They all stack as they are untyped.

 

[AbdulAlhazred]

There has been some debate about warlord bonuses and whether or not they apply to all or only the first attack roll. I don't recall an official pronouncement on this. There are situations where it seems a bit out of line to have it apply to all of them, but other situations where that seems to be the intent and it is perfectly reasonable. I'd say go with whichever reading works in your game.

 

[Solvarn]

I've seen this also

I've seen that debated also. It is my opinion that the one action that is granted by the action point benefits from any bonuses. For example, an action point scorching burst would allow the wizard to get the bonus from the warlord on all targets.

Any attacks that are free actions as a result of the action taken during the action point though would not gain the benefit.

The debate may stem from some of the paragon path powers (warpriest and pit fighter come to mind) where when you spend an action point it grants bonuses for all attack rolls during the turn.

 

[keterys]

If you make a single attack (ie, all attack rolls of an area) the Tactical benefits apply to all of the attacks. If you make multiple attacks (ie, the two attacks as part of a Twin Strike), it applies to only the first attack. See the latest FAQ.

 

[spayne]

Here is the FAQ mentioned above, look at #41.

 

[Solvarn]

Need to read

If you make a single attack (ie, all attack rolls of an area) the Tactical benefits apply to all of the attacks. If you make multiple attacks (ie, the two attacks as part of a Twin Strike), it applies to only the first attack. See the latest FAQ.

I should really be more up to date on FAQ's, I can see where there might be a debate on that. I can also see we've been running it wrong.

 

[CovertOps]

If you make a single attack (ie, all attack rolls of an area) the Tactical benefits apply to all of the attacks. If you make multiple attacks (ie, the two attacks as part of a Twin Strike), it applies to only the first attack. See the latest FAQ.

So we're saying that "attack" is defined by the type then? Melee, Ranged, Area (blast/burst), Close (blast/burst) and that Area and Close powers benefit more from "next attack" than the other two types then?