STAR TREK by JJ Abrams - new photos

[Arnwyn]

it would suck to see Star Trek permanently die.

Okay.

Maybe, to get new fans, they have to change things.

Okay.

Sometimes it sucks when you like the original, but times change, and unfortunately, what people like doesn't always remain the same.

Then why would it "suck" for Star Trek to permanently die, to a certain number of the population?

Just wondering. I only ask as this is along the lines of D&D's lame "save the hobby!" cries we hear every now and then, which often equate to "let's make things that suck to x number of people, just to save the hobby! And you'll be thankful the hobby is saved, even though nothing you like about it remains. But think of the hobby, man! THE HOBBY!" *ahem*


(Not that I'm saying the reboot sucks - I haven't seen it. It looks okay, actually, even though Kirk looks way too young... real age of the actor notwithstanding.)

 

[Banshee16]

Okay.

Okay.

Then why would it "suck" for Star Trek to permanently die, to a certain number of the population?

Just wondering. I only ask as this is along the lines of D&D's lame "save the hobby!" cries we hear every now and then, which often equate to "let's make things that suck to x number of people, just to save the hobby! And you'll be thankful the hobby is saved, even though nothing you like about it remains. But think of the hobby, man! THE HOBBY!" *ahem*


(Not that I'm saying the reboot sucks - I haven't seen it. It looks okay, actually, even though Kirk looks way too young... real age of the actor notwithstanding.)

It would suck for Star Trek to die, mainly because there are still a fair number of people who seem to be fans. So it's an "empathic sucking".....it might not hold as much weight with me, but I could see a lot of people being quite disappointed.

Evidently not enough people remain interested for it to remain viable without doing something to try and raise interest...if the TV show was cancelled, and the last movie generated low interest, and they haven't been getting great ratings, then evidently something was going wrong. Otherwise they wouldn't have low viewership problems, correct?

Banshee

 

[Merlin's Shadow]

...if the TV show was cancelled, and the last movie generated low interest, and they haven't been getting great ratings, then evidently something was going wrong.

Yes, something was going wrong and it has a name - Berman and Braga.

 

[Ranger REG]

(Not that I'm saying the reboot sucks - I haven't seen it. It looks okay, actually, even though Kirk looks way too young... real age of the actor notwithstanding.)

I dunno. Back in the mid-60's, the young Shat would be considered young in appearance to those audience. But to us later generations, we look at their appearance and style (with greased-up hair) as being more close to our fathers and grandfathers, hence old[er].

Let's not forget that this Abram film is both a re-imagination as well as an origin/prequel story.

 

[Ranger REG]

Yes, something was going wrong and it has a name - Berman and Braga.

That's two names and yeah, their unholy alliance is what started the downfall of the franchise, but that doesn't mean it is dead.

 

[Ranger REG]

I have no issues with cerebral movies....Star Trek just didn't jive for me. Given the past 2000 years of history, I always had trouble conceptualizing a future where people were mainly getting along, instead of finding new and ingenious ways to slaughter each other with better weapons than we have now. And the whole having sex with aliens thing.....given our knowledge of evolution, reproductive barriers between separate species etc. I thought it was kind of silly that Kirk would be getting it on with all these alien woman who looked like normal women, but with blue skin and antennas or something.....I mean, if we ever do run into another intelligent species, who's to say that their gender organs won't be in their arm pits or something?

Actually, it's not that hard to visualize a society that gets along. Roddenberry have the same vision much earlier than when Martin Luther King, Jr. did when he wrote and oratized the famous "I Have a Dream" speech.

And as for Kirk having sex with aliens, I don't think he was all too concerned about cross-species procreation (except for that one time with Carol Marcus). But he was an "explorer," IYKWIMAITYD. * nudge nudge*

That doesn't mean light sabers et all are any more realistic....but Star Wars did have action.....and fencing

Meh. I won't knock on the action part, but I prefer a good cerebral story that goes along with the action part. The whole "good vs. evil" theme -- IMNSHO -- have been played over and over and over again.

"Brimstone", that I really, really liked.....Brimstone was far more cerebral, but just didn't seem to catch on.

I agree about Brimstone. Then again, I never counted myself as mainstream as Star Wars casual fans.

 

[Brown Jenkin]

Yes, something was going wrong and it has a name - Berman and Braga.

Exactly. The solution has a name as well and it is Manny Coto and not JJ Abrams.

 

[Ranger REG]

Exactly. The solution has a name as well and it is Manny Coto and not JJ Abrams.

Last I checked, Manny was working on Keifer Sutherland's 24. His schedule may not allow him to take on such a feature film endeavor. That and JJ Abrams has more exposure as an A-list producer and director, as well as creator (Alias, Felicity, Lost, etc.).

 

[Brown Jenkin]

Last I checked, Manny was working on Keifer Sutherland's 24. His schedule may not allow him to take on such a feature film endeavor. That and JJ Abrams has more exposure as an A-list producer and director, as well as creator (Alias, Felicity, Lost, etc.).

I know Abrams is big, but he is an action director. I just don't trust him to do Trek apropriately, while I would see a Coto Trek movie without knowing anything about it.

 

[Ranger REG]

I know Abrams is big, but he is an action director. I just don't trust him to do Trek apropriately, while I would see a Coto Trek movie without knowing anything about it.

Meh. He wasn't just an action director at first. After all, he did Felicity.

And despite my Pure Hate of Tom Cruise, Abrams did make a better Mission Impossible 3 after the second film flop. In many works I have seen, he put more intelligence into one project than Berman & Braga did with all their directly collaborated works combined.

And as I have said earlier, Manny is pretty much busy with 24. I don't mind Manny write and Abrams direct though, but that is a dream team yet to come to fruition.