Ryujin
Legend
Ah, yes. The corporate version of FAFO.
Spoilers Star Trek: Deep Space Nine
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Weirdly that reminds me of another favourite Quark episode, Business as Usual, which is all about Quark crossing the line and crossing it right back as hard as possible.
“28 million dead? Can’t we just wound some of them?”
Also, wild to see Steven Berkoff in a Trek episode.
pukunui
Legend
Are you saying Iggy Pop plays a ferengi?
payn
Glory to Marik
No, but he does play a non-human in a Ferengi episode. All im gonna say.
overgeeked
Open-World Sandbox
Ryujin
Legend
Iggy pops up (sorry) in some very strange places (like a little bar over a radio station, a few miles from where I live, back in the '80s). He's a zombie in the Bill Murray/Adam Driver/Tilda Swinton movie "The Dead Don't Die", which I'll likely watch for maybe the 6th time, some time this week.
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payn
Glory to Marik
Iggy and Tom Waits did a short for Jarmusch’s Coffee and Cigarettes like 20 years ago now…
Ryujin
Legend
Compare the casts of the two movies and you might start to see a trend in actors that Jarmusch likes to work with.
pukunui
Legend
OK I think I just watched what for me is the worst DS9 episode so far: S3 E10 “Fascination”. That’s the one where Lwaxana Troi has a fever that causes her to project her lust for Odo onto others, causing various characters to engage in various embarrassing forms of infatuation, some bordering on sexual harassment.
Super cringey and awkward to watch. TOS and TNG have similar episodes. Why does Star Trek always have to go there?
EDIT: Oh dear. The next episode sees Sisko, Dax, and Bashir accidentally transported back in time to 2024, where Dax meets a friendly straight-laced white guy who mistakes her trill markings for a tattoo and explains that he used to have a “Māori tribal tattoo” down his arm, which he got “in high school back in the 90s like everybody else”.
That has not aged well!
Super cringey and awkward to watch. TOS and TNG have similar episodes. Why does Star Trek always have to go there?
EDIT: Oh dear. The next episode sees Sisko, Dax, and Bashir accidentally transported back in time to 2024, where Dax meets a friendly straight-laced white guy who mistakes her trill markings for a tattoo and explains that he used to have a “Māori tribal tattoo” down his arm, which he got “in high school back in the 90s like everybody else”.
That has not aged well!
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AnotherGuy
Hero
Languages and Communication, Customs, Sex, Religion, Eating Habits, Hierarchical Societies, Parenting you name it I think are all pretty cool things to explore between various species particularly in a setting such as Star Trek, even more so in the melting racial pot of DS9 which it does so well and is celebrated for it. And when things get bizarre even better.
I think watching it through a particular modern lens is a limitation of perspective.
Do you think the Māori's would get offended? Or do you think it was wrong for this friendly straight-laced white guy to exhibit enthusiasm for the Māori culture? @Zardnaar, since you're from New Zealand, what do you think?
@Zardnaar - I know the friendly straight-laced white guys in the New Zealand rugby team perform the Haka and that seems to be well accepted. And you did post a couple of videos of some white guys in bands performing Māori metal which is seeing a small resurgence in the Māori language. Any negative feedback or poor aging there?
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