Spoilers Star Trek: Deep Space Nine

But even then, Odo goes back to his family - initially to cure them, but also to join the Great Link and leave Kira (and everyone else) forever. Family trumps everything.

It isn't really about his family, though. It is about the entire species that is going to die if he doesn't return. And, if he's going to do that, he ought to stick around and teach the Great Link that not all "solids" are a-holes, and that the Founders were largely the architects of their own problems with solids.
 

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Binged some DS9 last night.

“Our Man Bashir” was fun. Always a delight getting to watch the main cast play acting as other characters. (Avery as usual gave 110%.)

The two-parter about the changelings on Earth was good, too. The Sisko family stuff was great, and I also enjoyed the way in which Sisko got Leyton to stand down from his attempted coup.

“Crossfire” was a hard watch just in terms of how devastated Odo was having to watch Kira fall for yet another guy other than him!

“Return to Grace” was excellent. I love these Kira-Dukat team-ups, and I’m really enjoying Ziyal. I love that Kira gets to look after her on DS9 now.
 

Binged some DS9 last night.

“Our Man Bashir” was fun. Always a delight getting to watch the main cast play acting as other characters. (Avery as usual gave 110%.)

The two-parter about the changelings on Earth was good, too. The Sisko family stuff was great, and I also enjoyed the way in which Sisko got Leyton to stand down from his attempted coup.

“Crossfire” was a hard watch just in terms of how devastated Odo was having to watch Kira fall for yet another guy other than him!

“Return to Grace” was excellent. I love these Kira-Dukat team-ups, and I’m really enjoying Ziyal. I love that Kira gets to look after her on DS9 now.
The two-parter is peak Star Trek to me.
 

Binged some DS9 last night.

“Our Man Bashir” was fun. Always a delight getting to watch the main cast play acting as other characters. (Avery as usual gave 110%.)

The two-parter about the changelings on Earth was good, too. The Sisko family stuff was great, and I also enjoyed the way in which Sisko got Leyton to stand down from his attempted coup.

“Crossfire” was a hard watch just in terms of how devastated Odo was having to watch Kira fall for yet another guy other than him!

“Return to Grace” was excellent. I love these Kira-Dukat team-ups, and I’m really enjoying Ziyal. I love that Kira gets to look after her on DS9 now.

I think Siskio my favorite captain. Not a trekkie just seemed the nicest.
 

I didn’t really enjoy “Sons of Mogh”. I have little patience for Klingon culture these days. The only part I liked was when Sisko got mad at Worf and Dax.

“Bar Association”, on the other hand, was terrific! Loved seeing Rom stand up for himself and find his own path in life instead of always playing second fiddle to Quark. Long may it last!

“Accession” is really good too. Great to see Sisko finally accept his role as the Emissary.
 
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It's cool seeing ROM's development. I love that no character gets neglected on DS9. Well, except for Keiko. Her whole purpose seems to be to get in the way of Miles' playdates with Julian.
 


It's cool seeing ROM's development. I love that no character gets neglected on DS9. Well, except for Keiko. Her whole purpose seems to be to get in the way of Miles' playdates with Julian.
An unfortunate result of multiple factors in the show's production. As a recurring character she tends to show up only in Miles-centric episodes, and since the standard procedure for such episodes is "O'Brien must suffer" it tends to not show a rosy portrayal of their relationship.
 

Since I don’t see a thread dedicated to my favourite science fiction media property I thought I’d start one, and make it spoilers even though the series is over thirty years old.

I just rewatched the first episode, which I remember as being lacklustre, and have realised that 19-year-old me was full of crap. It holds up incredibly well in character development, storytelling, worldbuilding, themes, and even special effects (the visual effects team really knew the limits they were working within*). In hindsight, with all my stored up affection for the characters, seeing them appear for the first time was a delight. I’m just sorry that Garak and Worf aren’t there yet.

*Though clearly the ten seconds of Odo shape shifting must have been incredibly expensive and demanding for 1993.

The things I liked most on this rewatch were:
  • Avery Brooks’ acting as Sisko generally, not least his suppressed rage at having to meet with Picard and take his orders. His open, weeping grief (“no, it’s not linear”) is overwhelming on screen.
  • The surprisingly realistic approach to regime change and the effects of imperialism, especially Kira’s grimly amused acceptance that the provisional Bajoran government won’t last (“this government will be gone in a week and so will you”). This is quite surprising given that the series was written before Iraq, Afghanistan, or even Kosovo. It struck quite a chord with us given recent events.
  • The wonderful little scene introducing Bashir’s cheerful English colonialism (“I’ve always wanted to work in the wilderness, it’s where heroes are made”) and, again, Kira’s savage amusement (“This wilderness is my home, doctor. Get to work and bring your advanced medicine to the natives. They’re a simple but friendly folk.”).
Great post — totally agree! The pilot holds up way better than people give it credit for. The character work and political themes were so ahead of their time, and Sisko’s grief scene still hits hard. Kira’s realism and Bashir’s naive idealism really set the tone for the whole series. DS9 honestly feels even more relevant today than it did back then.
 

It's cool seeing ROM's development. I love that no character gets neglected on DS9. Well, except for Keiko. Her whole purpose seems to be to get in the way of Miles' playdates with Julian.
I dunno. In the episode I just watched, she could see Miles was pining to play with Julian, so she told him she’d bumped into Julian and noticed he was depressed and needed cheering up. After Miles left, she called Julian and told him that Miles was depressed and needed cheering up.

An unfortunate result of multiple factors in the show's production. As a recurring character she tends to show up only in Miles-centric episodes, and since the standard procedure for such episodes is "O'Brien must suffer" it tends to not show a rosy portrayal of their relationship.
So far I don’t agree. I think the show does a great job showing their relationship as being genuine and loving. Keiko is one of my favorite characters, and I really enjoy watching her with Miles.

As an aside, I’d forgotten that Worf had to help deliver Molly when he got trapped with Keiko in an old TNG episode. Miles told Julian about it as Worf appeared. The look of fear on his face when he heard that Keiko was expecting again!

“Keiko’s gonna have a baby! Wanna help?”
“Now?!”
“In seven months.”
“Unfortunately I will be away … Far away … visiting my parents … on Earth.”
 
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