Star Trek: Enterprise has been canceled

[Psychic Warrior]

What do you mean "not quite crap"?

I meant exactly what I typed. This season, while far from being good is not quite the pure crap that the last 3 seasons were.

I mean it's bad enough they're in a deep hole, you think they should pull out some kind of epic story to fly out? That's a stoopid and wrong approach for Trek, and you know it. They've been climbing out of the hole with good stories this season. Not epic, but good enough to impress even me, after those 3 years of crap. And I'm very hard to impress when it comes to Trek.

Who said I wanted some grand story arc? I don't remember typing that. If you are truly impressed with the current episodes then I would venture to say you are not quite so hard to impress when it comes to Star Trek as you believe. Or perhaps the garbage that they have thrown at us for three yearsa has dulled your tastes.

Nah. Someone said they're cancelling Trek as well as WWE Smackdown! (which have always done better rating because trailer park audience outnumbers sci-fi fans) because they want to change UPN's format.

'Someone'. Oh, well I guess that clears up that. I must have been foolish to think it was because they had chased away so many viewers with their three years of terrible TV.

 

[Belen]

In contrast, I've found SG-1 to be nothing short of a hack-job. Jack O'Neill doesn't have the leadership skills to guide a group of cub scouts through the service line at McDonalds, let alone command an "elite" expeditionary force across alien worlds, with the fate of the Earth on the line.

Thank you! I am so tired of the RDA O"Neill. The man would never have made it through basic. No one who wants to "stick it to the man" serves in the US Special Forces! While I like the rest of the cast, RDA sucks donkey nuts!

 

[reveal]

Looks like the artist from Real Life didn't like it either.

http://www.reallifecomics.com/20050204_1374.png

 

[myrdden]

The first season wasn't decent, IMNSHO. The moment they showed a Klingon on Earth in the "Broken Bow" episode, I knew this is Braga's signature way of killing the show. You know what makes it worse for me personally? I gave him a second chance to prove me wrong after the VOY fiasco he made.

Y'know - I had actually forgotten how the series started. I agree it wasn't a stellar beginning, and the continuity/TCW stuff was displeasing (and sometimes aggrivating) for me, but I found the first season at least worth watching. The second and third seaons though really wasn't worth my time.

At least I didn't watch VOY!

Don't know if it concluded the TCW since we don't know who that mysterious villain, but we managed to witness of that Suliban ally. After that, we didn't go back to that again. Personally, I don't care if that will ever be concluded, I don't want to revisit the TCW arc.

Agreed.

 

[Villano]

Nah. Someone said they're cancelling Trek as well as WWE Smackdown! (which have always done better rating because trailer park audience outnumbers sci-fi fans) because they want to change UPN's format.

Actually, from what I understand, the Smackdown thing is a bit different. What someone from UPN said was that they were considering not renewing the show when their contract expired in a few years. People in the TV industry say it sounds like pre-contract negotiation tactics. Most likely Smackdown will be renewed.

 

[Arnwyn]

Is it truly too late? I mean you stated there is improvement this season.

Apparently, since the show was cancelled and the most recent episode had the lowest ratings yet for Enterprise.

So, yes.

 

[myrdden]

Apparently, since the show was cancelled and the most recent episode had the lowest ratings yet for Enterprise.

So, yes.

Yes...it's very much is a case of "too little, too late".

 

[LordVyreth]

To be honest, I think I liked Season 3 the best. I guess I'm just a sucker for the season-long story arcs, even if it wasn't exactly up to the caliber of your average Buffy season. There was just too many goofy bits from this season (alien Nazis? The totally impossible final battle in the Khan-esque storyline?)

If they do make a new Star Trek, I'd also like to see it a few generations of even centuries after TNG and company. Among other things, I'm hoping it'll take the technology a few levels farther, letting them incorporate a few logical improvements that the earlier series have been unable to add due to their 1960s origin. I admit I got into Trek late, so I never really got into some of the anachronisms established (nobody watching a movie made after 1960, the total demise of the video game industry (especially pre-Holodek,) and the Internet, the lack of automated defenses and scouts despite how often starships get boarded and infected with strange diseases, etc.)

Another more unique idea I had is the possibility of two starships, which start out on opposing sides of some sort of intergalactic conflict. The "good" and "evil" ships would alternate episodes, but the actions one crew takes will often affect the other, and both ships could be featured in major episodes. They could even fight and might even kill members of each other's crew, but it should be obvious early that it's not an obvious black and white situation. For example, it might be between an authorized Fedaration ship after the Fedaration has grown corrupt and complacent in places and an outlaw ship generally opposed to the Fedaration but more interested in being left alone, and consitantly failing to do so.

 

[JoeGKushner]

I don't watch a lot of tv.

I never watched this.

It doesn't make me sad or happy, but does give me some hope that when the female lead companies that there's no writing involved, that perhaps the next Trek series won't blatantly try to rely on sex to sell.

 

[Chun-tzu]

Another more unique idea I had is the possibility of two starships, which start out on opposing sides of some sort of intergalactic conflict. The "good" and "evil" ships would alternate episodes, but the actions one crew takes will often affect the other, and both ships could be featured in major episodes. They could even fight and might even kill members of each other's crew, but it should be obvious early that it's not an obvious black and white situation. For example, it might be between an authorized Fedaration ship after the Fedaration has grown corrupt and complacent in places and an outlaw ship generally opposed to the Fedaration but more interested in being left alone, and consitantly failing to do so.

Sounds like an extension of the Federation/Maquis concept from early Voyager. I dare say it will never happen under the name Star Trek. Star Trek is more into the black-and-white morality plays, with DS9 being the most daring in going to morally ambivalent places. Star Trek has become mainstream, and as such, they'll stick with playing it safe and being conservative. They won't push the envelope.

A few people have stated a desire to see Star Trek jump a few generations ahead. I think that would create more problems than it solves. First, I don't see a need to completely divorce a new show from the TNG/DS9/VOY era. It all but rules out most guest-star appearances by familiar faces (except using time travel or descendants), which I don't see as particularly a good thing. Second, and more importantly, Star Trek technology is suspect and problematic enough as it is. The universal translators are already amazingly convenient. Travelling faster than light is something you're not likely to see in sci-fi shows any more, seeing as it's widely believed to be impossible (as opposed to wormholes, which are merely improbable). The holodeck technology is fairly far fetched, and those episodes have been done to death. Artificial intelligence in Star Trek is unbelievably anthropomorphic, which I understand is one of the show's classic themes, but again, they've gone to the well way too often on this one. Although it would make an interesting feature film, perhaps, we really don't need to see a whole series with even more futuristic technology.