Spoilers Star Wars: Andor season 2

[pukunui]

Word of god is @Epic Meepo is right!

What was the name of the antagonist in KotOR2 again?

Darth Nihilus?

 

[Paul Farquhar]

Darth Nihilus?

Nah, he was a patsy. Ah yes, Kreia (aka Darth Treya).

 

[Paul Farquhar]

Now I wonder if there is an alternative episode vi to ix in which Darth Kleya turns out to have been puppetering the Rebellion and the Empire all along.

Didn’t she look a bit evil in that last shot on Yavin?

 

[pukunui]

Now I wonder if there is an alternative episode vi to ix in which Darth Kleya turns out to have been puppetering the Rebellion and the Empire all along.

Didn’t she look a bit evil in that last shot on Yavin?

That could explain why the New Republic never really had a chance.

 

[Zardnaar]

I don't think that holds up in a universe as diverse as that of Star Wars with all sorts of wild sentient beings. Particularly as most of the droids we've seen are of approximately human intelligence and surprisingly human mindsets. Whatever the secrets behind their construction, they're ending up seeming very human-like. So in terms of their intelligence and way of thinking they're more "peers" of humanity than some of the other aliens are!


I think that's a more important point. There probably is a dividing line. Where exactly that would be something for the droids to determine, probably. They'd have a better idea than humans would.


As @billd91 says that's 100% been argued to be the case about humans, like repeatedly, for centuries. It doesn't really matter why something exists if it's inherently sentient, sapient, and free-willed. You also can really get into the weeds with that because some droids will not have been created to be slaves (c.f. C3PO), but are clearly treated as slaves anyway.

I think free will is kind of true sentience.

Basically could you trust a Droid to vote independently?

C3P0 can't break his programming (RotJ Endor). He's a clever machine.

Pretty much all of them are. Artoo might be a rare exception.

Imagine. The senate would like to thank Palpatine for the passage of the Droid emancipation act. We welcome 20 trillion new voters.

Next election. Palpatine has won relection by 20 trillion votes. He has proposed a new act the Droid manufacturing bill for Mechanus III. The bill proposes to expand production on Mechanus III by 500 billion units per year.

Concerned voter KX- 3SP1 what's your opinion on the new bill. Congratulations on turning 3 days old btw.

KX-3SPI. " We love Palapatine. All hail Palpatine. Beep".

Legends had sentient droids. Disney hasn't gone there. Two species of sentient droids and a handful of individuals. By handful might be a grand total of 2.

 

[pukunui]

Legends had sentient droids. Disney hasn't gone there.

L3-37 would like to speak to you about droid rights.

 

[Zardnaar]

L3-37 would like to speak to you about droid rights.

Has she been programmed that way though?

 

[pukunui]

Has she been programmed that way though?

No, she built and programmed herself apparently.

 

[Ruin Explorer]

Basically could you trust a Droid to vote independently?

You can't trust most humans to do that, and I'm entirely serious when I say that. So I'm not sure what your point is.

 

[Zardnaar]

You can't trust most humans to do that, and I'm entirely serious when I say that. So I'm not sure what your point is.

You're basically saying they don't vote the way you want.

I'm saying a Droid couldn't vote the way you want if it's programming forbids it.

Big difference.

Clever machine vs sentience.

That's where I personally draw the line.