Star Wars: Force Unleashed (Saga Edition)

[Henry]

Exactly.

However, some have said that only the heavy hitters have shown telekinetic abilities like what's in the demo movie.

But if you look at TPM, Obi-wan throws around half a dozen droids every other scene, and they can't be considered, you know, light. Then there's Vader tossing huge chunks of metal at Luke left and right in ESB.

No, I don't see this as inconsistent with the movies. Perhaps a bit cooler in application (especially that last Tie-fighter scene), but not inconsistent. Not at all.

Vader's display was nothing compared to Yoda's and Palpatine's little fight in Episode III -- they were tossing repulsorlift podiums that had to easily be a ton or three each at each other.

 

[Randolpho]

Vader's display was nothing compared to Yoda's and Palpatine's little fight in Episode III -- they were tossing repulsorlift podiums that had to easily be a ton or three each at each other.

Yes but that example had been used as a "heavy-hitter" example, i.e. only uber-masters were capable of displaying that type of raw power. I was trying to show how the "lesser folk" were doing things.

 

[Odhanan]

Personally, I don't care much for the video game, since there doesn't seem to be a PC version and my own PC wouldn't be able to run that level of graphics anyway.

I'm eager to get my hands on the Force Unleashed sourcebook, however, because I'll be running a Dark Times game, between Ep. 3 and 4, at that time, and that's the era the book's supposed to be about.

 

[Arrgh! Mark!]

I must admit the technological angle did annoy me a tad, before I had a realisation.

but you have to realise this is basically a fantasy before it attempts to be sci-fi. the sci-fi is the flavour - fantasy is the real meat of these stories. Star wars requires space-ships, blasters and the like to be Star Wars at all. These stories take place over galaxies and star systems rather than different continents, and have star ships instead of naval ships.

Basically, if these things don't happen you don't have Star Wars. You have some busted up Jedi mysticism tacked onto a more traditional fantasy world or whatever. So instead of going against it, go with it - its D+D when you leap a spiked pit. It's Star Wars when you leap a pit over the vacuum of space. How do you not get sucked in? No-one can work it out for real. So basically I had to stop being bothered by it and just got on with it. Not only do they leap the pit, they are being shot at by stormtroopers and Darth Vader is on his way down to smack them silly.

They don't just leap it with style. They leap it Star Wars, if you get my meaning.




The only issue I really have with Force Unleashed is that is does show a lot of telekinesis and the like; the issue I have with it isn't so much the scope of the power (I did hear about Ancient Sith Lords crashing suns into planets and what not) but that it basically emasculates Vader.

Vader is scary and frightening. I made players genuinely concerned with safety when Vader's Executor was hovering over their planet and they were busily failing Force Stealth rolls. They really didn't want to be anywhere near by.

Force unleashed will have a lot of people watch/re-watch the movies and go "Vader is a pansy. Why doesn't he pull off this crashing starships, super-speed, and the like? Why's he such a weakling in the Force, only doing some pithy TK and choking some officer guy? He mustn't have the skill in the Force that his apprentice has.."

Er, okay. The first movies had the force being far more subtle than the 1-3 saga; this force unleashed basically blows the canon characters power levels out of the water.

Thats the only thing that gets me, really. It's like that part when you are playing a video game against the bad guy who has been made out to be so extremely tough and you cream him in thirty seconds.

 

[Ace32]

The only issue I really have with Force Unleashed is that is does show a lot of telekinesis and the like; the issue I have with it isn't so much the scope of the power (I did hear about Ancient Sith Lords crashing suns into planets and what not) but that it basically emasculates Vader.

Vader is scary and frightening. I made players genuinely concerned with safety when Vader's Executor was hovering over their planet and they were busily failing Force Stealth rolls. They really didn't want to be anywhere near by.

Force unleashed will have a lot of people watch/re-watch the movies and go "Vader is a pansy. Why doesn't he pull off this crashing starships, super-speed, and the like? Why's he such a weakling in the Force, only doing some pithy TK and choking some officer guy? He mustn't have the skill in the Force that his apprentice has.."

Er, okay. The first movies had the force being far more subtle than the 1-3 saga; this force unleashed basically blows the canon characters power levels out of the water.

Thats the only thing that gets me, really. It's like that part when you are playing a video game against the bad guy who has been made out to be so extremely tough and you cream him in thirty seconds.

Well this is a valid point - assuming that Vader remains depicted as he is in the movies.

However, I have a feeling that the game designers will let Vader have his own share of the spotlight. After all, you are playing as Vader's apprentice. If you are capable of such massive displays of the force - Vader had better be capable of the same or there is little reason to believe you'd continue being an apprentice...

So maybe he'll start ripping out people's throats instead of just gripping them.

 

[Wraith Form]

Yes but that example had been used as a "heavy-hitter" example, i.e. only uber-masters were capable of displaying that type of raw power. I was trying to show how the "lesser folk" were doing things.

I was re-watching AotC, and Yoda and Windu are talking in the Temple. Windu very specifically says (paraphrasing here) that the Jedis are going to have to acknowldge that they've lost much of their power, while the Dark Side has begun to wax strong.

It makes sense to me that, in the KotOR era, Force powers were super-heroic based on the above quote. Err, paraphrase.

 

[Wraith Form]

I'm eager to get my hands on the Force Unleashed sourcebook, however, because I'll be running a Dark Times game, between Ep. 3 and 4, at that time, and that's the era the book's supposed to be about.

Yes, I concur 100%. Exactly the period of time I'd love to hear more about.